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Friday, December 07, 2001 6:59 AM
Fw: Sept. 11 Victims Compensation Fund Rules



ATTN: Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs
U.S. Department of Justice

  I understand the DOJ is gathering comments on the rules to govern the distribution of funds in the Sept. 11 Victims Compensation Fund.

  Please note that I favor rules that contain a broad definition of "family" or "household" so that life partners and household members of gay victims can receive benefits. Since gay people in the United States cannot legally marry, there must be other criteria than legal marriage certificates for determining such status. I think applying common law marriage criteria would be one possible way to go (proof of cohabitation for X number of years -- I would suggest 2 years as an indicator of commitment). Other criteria you could consider using: awarding benefits to beneficiaries named in the victim's life insurance policies, or in wills or health-care directives. 

  Thank you for your consideration.

  Individual Comment
  Daytona Beach, Fl.

 
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.  Under
traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of
all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a
double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The
Department of Justice should do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,
Individual Comment
San Francisco,CA 

 
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              <text>Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:37 PM
Equal access to Crisis Relief Benefits for surviving gay and
lesbian partners


December  19, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Cobleskill, NY
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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:00 PM
Compensation for all victims


I am very angry that the families of gay and lesbian victims of the 9/11 
tragedy are not being compensated!  If illegal aliens can recieve benefits, 
then so can the legal residents of this country, including gay or lesbian 
citizens.

Don't forget that one of the heros of that downed plane in PA was &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp , a gay man.  If it weren't for him, that plane may have smashed into 
the US Congress.  There was also the &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp who died while giving last 
rites at the World Trade Center site.  He was known and loved by many.  And 
these are only two of the many courageous gay folks that I know about -- I'm 
sure there are many more.

Please remind me that we live in the land of the free and extend benefits to 
everyone who rightly deserves it.  Give the gay and lesbian families of the 
victims the same help as everyone else.

A Proud American,




Individual Comment
Durham, NC
 
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Monday, March 11, 2002 8:10 AM
Fwd: THE LIST: 9/11 Fund Screws Gays


right now and for most of these past 2 days i've been so angry i could bite a 
skunk in the azz!!! ... if you haven't kept up --- the u.s. justice 
department has summarily denied any federal comensation to the families of 
the 9/11 gay victims based on whatever the state laws recognizes ... so if 
the state law recognizes the same-sex relationship the the federal law and 
911 fund will grant status and put a check in the mail .. if the state law 
doesn't then tough titties!!! ... you are SOL!!!  deal with it!!! .. 

however, the fund will grant status to illegal, undocumented workers AND not 
penalize their employers for having these workers on the payroll .. even tho 
both state and federal statutes are being violated!!!!!! 

it's the typical beaucratic circle jerk-catch22 situation --- the feds say 
they won't over rule state law for fear of law suits .. and most states do 
not recognize same-sex relationships --- even tho there are some 
states/cities that grant domestic partner benifits to city/state workers but 
not to the general population as a whole!!! ... but then federal workers 
don't have domestic partner benefits!!! ... so we shouldn't be surprised 
about this turn of events!!!  so if the state says no way jose .. the feds 
chain step to that tune and witholds the funds ... what a crock!!! 

so the survivors of same-sex households who were victimized by the atrocities 
of the 911 events are being victimized all over again ---- and that sucks --- 
like they don't have bills to pay or houses to keep .. or kids that need 
shoes ... medical needs ... and even worse they probably won't be able to 
qualify for the tax relief when they file their tax returns!!!! 

and i bet you that if there wasn't any type of support w/both families of 
these households .. the surviving spouse probably is having to deal w/the 
deceased partners family to even keep what assets they acquired together !!! 
... 

tell you this .. i refuse to allow the government to which i pay taxes to 
relegate gay families to a sub-status because of thier ignorance, prejudice 
and stupidity ... 

many a glbt american contributed to this fund under the impression that it 
would be fairly adminstrated and distributed to the victims and their 
families ... 

well there we go assuming that things are fair --- and that all of the 
victims/families would be recognized ... 

if this was a government of the people .. by the people .. and for the people 
.. we really wouldn't even be having this discussion ... 

the way i see it .. if you are recognized by the government enough for them 
to tax you out the wazzooo then all rights and benefits belong to you --- 
period --- no status determination required!!! .. 

when they can separate tax contributions into those made by gays and those by 
straights and distribute them accordingly then the ruling can stand as stated 
... but they can't ... so they need to come correct and cover every family 
affected --- no questions asked ... 

actually this is what they need to do in this country as a whole --- and get 
off this well the bible doesn't recognize you bs!!! .. not all american's 
believe/follow the bible .. and even those who put themselves forward as 
christians don't follow it 100%.... and grant 100% 1st class citizenship 
rights to each and every american --- 
gay/str8/black/white/pokadotted/bigoted!!! .. 

anyway ... i'm thru ... my moral/mental/social/emotional outrage still burns 
... 

this can't go unprotested/contested!!! ... make the calls .. write the 
letters/emails ... 

Individual Comment

 
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Monday, November 26, 2001 5:16 PM
sept. 11

Dear Attorney General Ashcroft,

The attack on America was an attack on all Americans--- regardless of sexual
orientation, socioeconomic status, or race. Two very good friends of mine,
both married, worked for                    and both are still missing.  One
man left behind a pregnant wife, who just delivered a baby 3 weeks ago.
Thank god she is going to receive all of the benefits that she deserves and
I only hope that everyone who lost a partner or loved one can experience the
same level of support.  Please do not discriminate against the unmarried
partners of September 11th victims. All unmarried partners, gay or straight,
young and old and their dependents should be eligible for compensation.



Sincerley,

Individual Comment

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              <text>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:29 AM
Subject: Compensation for ALL victims of Sept. 11
Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice
Mr. Zwick,
While it's true that I used a "form" letter below to express my feelings
to you on the subject of compensation--these are my feelings in full. Grief
and Need do not differentiate between gay and straight. Please do the right
thing.
Dear Mr. Zwick:
I am writing in response to the Department's request for public comments
regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing and administering
the "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund." I strongly urge the Department
to draft regulations that ensure compensation is available to all victims
of the attack, including the committed partners and the non-biological
children of gay and lesbian victims.
It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic losses
suffered by the families of gay and lesbian victims are no less than that
of other families. Just as the terrorists drew no lines in choosing their
victims, our country must draw no lines in compensating those who suffered
the most personal of losses from these horrific attacks.
Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom left
behind loved ones. I urge the Department to honor these bonds by treating
the families of gay and lesbian victims as you would any other.
Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Macon,GA
 
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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:28 AM
RELIEF FOR GAY AND LESBIAN PARTNERS!


December  19, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Palo Alto, CA 

 
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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:53 PM
atrocities


guess who gets left out of 9/11 funds? i'll never contribute another dime to anything.

http://uspolitics.about.com/library/weekly/aa031102a.htm

Individual Comment
u.s. citizen
gay person

 
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Please consider the following


December  19, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Washington, DC

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Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:25 PM
Victim Compensation Comment


Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice


Dear Mr. Zwick:

It is my understanding that the Dept. of Justice is currently deciding on the rules to which the 9/11 victims and their relatives will be dispensed the funds set aside for them.

It is important when deciding the definition of a relative that we not forget the life partners, children (whether biological or via life partner connection), and parents (again, whether biological or via life partner connection) of our gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered citizens.  Although these individuals may not live in traditional families, they are our citizens, pay their taxes, and have suffered the same emotional and financial impact of traditional families.  In fact, they are the epitome of what being "free" is and a perfect example of why we fight to save that freedom.  

I'm sure you will receive many comments and significant protests from anti-gay groups seeking to exclude homosexual, bisexual, or transgendered citizens and their non-traditional families from receiving aid.  I trust that the Department of Justice will rise above this pressure and do what's right.  Please ensure that all our citizens are properly and fairly treated.

Thank you for your support.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment

Inver Grove Heights, MN 


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Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:11 PM
Regarding the 9-11 emergency fund

As an American citizen I am outraged that there is still homophobia within
our Government.  I like many in my gay community gave so freely to the 911
emergency fund to help all the families that suffered during the terrorist
attacks on our country.  To discriminate against the partners of the brave
Gay and Lesbians who lost their lives to protect all Americans is just
unconstitutional. 

I guess it would seem that there has been yet another attack related to the
Sept. 11th incident, please help to right the wrong that has been bestowed
to our Gay and Lesbians that fell in the attacks.

Thank you,




Individual Comment

 
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002
Outrage!


How dare you deny compensation to the families of 9/11 victims who happened
to be gay or lesbian!

           &amp;            did not question whether their
sacrifices would be 'politically correct'.  Their selfless acts showed them
for what they were--caring Americans who happened to be gay.  Perhaps the
press forgot to mention that they were gay or maybe they did it
intentionally but the point is that no one made little of their acts just
because they happened to be gay.

Senator John McCain's eulogy for            and the others who took down
that flight said we were all in           's debt.  Is this how America repays
debts to its fallen heroes?  By denying their grieving partners what even
illegal immigrants can claim?

This is absurd.

Individual Comment 


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Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:50 PM


Since when are illegal aliens and companies that hire them more elligable to receive compensation then heros of families of people like           
 and           
 and other heroes who happen to be homosexual.  I find the failure of your organization to distribute funds to the families of illegial alliens and not to the partners of these brave Americans an atrocity that I will definitely be bringing to the attention of my elected officials.  You, sir should be ashamed of yourself. 

Sincerely,
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1/6/02
Dear Mr. Feinberg

  I am writing to urge you to ensure that all families of the survivors of the sep. 11 tragedy receive fair
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deserve the same level of compensation as others. It would be highly unfair to do otherwise.  The Red
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families. Please do the same.


Individual Comment
Gaston, OR

 
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Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:22 PM
equal compensation


December  18, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Providence, RI

 
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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:49 AM



Even with deductions from $1.6 million per family, I cannot understand the greed shown by survivor's families.  That figure, together with the billions donated by American's like myself, should compensate adequately and then some.



Definition:  The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property 


Why not commensurate donations by the Government (read ME) for:
Auto accident victims? (a drunk driver is a terrorist) Abused spouses? B &amp; E victims? ad naseum.


Individual Comment
Dunedin, FL
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Friday, December 14, 2001 7:39 AM
fair treatment

To Mr. Feinberg:
I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families
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low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.
Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader
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Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you
will act on these very important issues.
Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Denton Tx 
 
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Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:19 AM
unfair discrimination against gay victims of 9/ll
 
please make your compensation equal to gay and straight  victims.

Individual Comment

 
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Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
New Vote.com votes as of 01:09 PM EST on January 28th, 2002




Dear September 11th Victim Compensation Fund,


Vote.com is the Internet's most popular voting site.  Millions of people regularly express their opinions and - in just one click - automatically send their views to important decision makers like you.


Here are the latest votes on the question, DOES THE GOVERNMENT'S AID PROGRAM FOR FAMILIES OF SEPT. 11 VICTIMS GO FAR ENOUGH?:


YES: 31 votes 
NO: 3 votes 

Group Comment
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