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December 19, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September 11th, 
including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.

Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of the
restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of all
those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a double
blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money went to those
who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the option of
marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of having to prove
that their union is legitimate. Fortunately both the Red Cross and the State of New York have already 
announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The Department of Justice should
do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very important 
issues.

Sincerely,
 
Individual Comment
Kirkland, WA
 
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Saturday, March 16, 2002 3:56 PM
9/11 fund must be fair to gays and lesbians

Dear fund mangers,
I¹ve just been informed that you are not treating all people equally in
disbursing your fund.  You should treat gays and lesbians the same as other
people.  It seems that this would be a no brainer given what the terrorists
stand for but it seems that you with your exclusion of gays and lesbians and
non acceptance of their family and partners you are buying into the thought
pattern of the terrorists, that of thinking ³we are right and ?you¹ are
not².  I am appaled that this kind of thought might even exist, let alone be
acted on.  

I am outraged that you would not consider the family and partners of gays
and lesbians.  Many gave their lives in this struggle and one may have saved
us from some other horrible disaster in DC on the flight that crashed in
Penn.  I don¹t understand why you can¹t accept these people as they are.
Please think before you act in this reckless manner.  Your exclusion of gays
and lesbians will be a moral crisis in the making.


Sincerely,



Individual Comment
Cathedral City, CA
 
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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:29 AM
equality is just and american



Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Jefferson City, MO

 
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Kenneth L. Zwick, Director, Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice
victimcomp.comments@usdol.gov
FAX--(301) 519-5956

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am responding to the Department's request for public comments regarding the forthcoming 
regulations for implementing and administering the "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund."
I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure compensation is available to 
ALL victims of the attack, including the committed partners and  the non-biological children 
of gay and lesbian victims.

It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic losses suffered by the families 
of gay and lesbian victims are no less than that of other families.  Just as the terrorists drew 
no lines in choosing their victims, our country must draw no lines in compensating those 
who suffered the most personal of losses from these horrific attacks.

Each of the many Americans lost their lives on September 11 left behind loved ones. 
I urge the Department to honor All these bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian 
victims as any other.

Sincerely,



Individual Comment
Austin, TX

 
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              <text>Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:20 PM
The unfair reality of the Victims Compensation Fund

I lost my husband     on 9/11. I have three children ages 4 and 2 and one 
born one month after the attack.  His company     is only giving 
health care benefits until April of this year.  How can I afford health care 
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sacrificed to have.  I feel as though we have already paid the ultimate 
sacrifice...a lifetime without my husband, a daughter who never met her 
father and two children who will only have vague memories.  Haven't we been 
robbed and raped enough?  Please do what is right and just for our children 
in the name of our loved ones.
Thank You.
Individual Comment

 
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:08 PM
wanted you to see this!


Sounds like a pretty shameful and narrow -minded policy to me.



Individual Comment

 
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December 15, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.  Under
traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of
all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a
double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The
Department of Justice should do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,
     
Individual Comment
Bronx,NY 
 
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Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:17 PM
September 11 Victim Compensation Fund

Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice


Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public
comments regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing
and administering the "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund."
I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure
compensation is available to all victims of the attack,
including the committed partners and the non-biological children
of gay and lesbian victims.

It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic
losses suffered by the families of gay and lesbian victims are
no less than that of other families.  Just as the terrorists
drew no lines in choosing their victims, our country must draw
no lines in compensating those who suffered the most personal of
losses from these horrific attacks.

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom
left behind loved ones.  I urge the Department to honor these
bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian victims as you
would any other.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment 
Eugene, OR 

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Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:35 PM
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I have been keeping up with the comments submitted here and it seems that the majority fall into 3 categories:
    (a) "form letters" lobbying for the inclusion of the gay/lesbian domestic partner as 'eligible'
    (b) family members of a deceased victim who want MORE, MORE, MORE!
    (c) the 'non-recipient taxpayer' - who find the amounts too high and the greed inexcusable

As far as (a), I say "go with state law".  If gay/lesbian partnerships are treated the SAME as marriages by their state, then they should be here too.  As should "common law" marriages. But "treated the SAME" should be all-encompassing - the state supports your right to participate in the "benefits" of recognition of your partnership, but also defines the restrictions/responsibilities on ending the relationship.  If the state does not have any laws addressing terminating the partnership (divorce, child custody, probate, etc.), then it is NOT THE SAME as 'regular marriages', and those partnerships should not be recognized here either.  

As far as (b), based on their behavior I would not give family members of a deceased victim anything.  They have forfeited there 'right' to our compassion by being so unwilling to accept it graciously, respectfully, and QUIETLY.  I keep hearing/reading statements of how 'we will be forced to sue' because the offered compensation is so limited.  This is nothing more than a blatant threat (extortion?)- give me more or I'll sue everybody.  Cut them off and let them go to court.   Use the taxpayers money ONLY for the living - those victims who survived, but were injured (as defined in this rule).  If you ABSOLUTELY INSIST on providing compensation to the 'family members of a deceased victim', I think you should go through all of your calculations, come up with one total, put it a pot, and then let them all fight over how to split it amongst themselves - ANY WAY THEY WANT TO!

As far as (c), obviously I agree!  I do not like the precedent being set.  I don't think it will be followed through on.  I think Congress acted impulsively when enacting this.  It was only 2 weeks after the event - too soon to be making such dramatic gestures. The whole country was still a little irrational/panicky about where things were headed and the number-of-victims-estimates were still inflated by over 100%.  Now that things have settled down a bit and everyone, including Congress, has had some time to digest the event, perhaps you should go back to them and ask 'Do you really think this is a good idea?'.  I hope they would respond 'No'.

Just me -
Individual Comment
Denver, CO


 
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Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:05 AM
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Hello. Members of the gay and lesbian community were also effected by the tragedy. Many lost loved ones such as life-partners and parents. These people need to be compensated for there losses as well, for it would make for another tragedy if not.  Thank you for listening and I truly hope these remarks are heard.

Sincerely 
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NONE of my tax monies to illegal immigrants.  It is just tough!
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December 13, 2001

Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.  Under
traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
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The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
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option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
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Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,
Individual Comment

Campbell, CA

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Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:19 AM
ELEGIBILITY FOR FIANCES FOR COMPENSATION

To whom it may concern:

I need to bring to your attention a very REAL situation that is being IGNORED 
or DISMISSED: Fiances of the victims.  Speaking as a Fiance, it is a horrific 
feeling to be totally unaccounted for in this whole 9-11 tragedy and it 
almost seems like my 8-year relationship with my fiance ( 4 of them living 
together sharing a home) didn't exist!?!?!?   Despite not having the piece of 
paper that says we were married under state laws, our union was VERY REAL and 
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cope with our suffering - the SAME loss as that of a widow's, which I 
absolutely consider myself to be.   Situations such as mine NEED to be 
recognized and compensation needs to be addressed FAIRLY: taking into 
consideration the lives of those that died under the times that we live in 
NOW.  The truth of the matter is that people nowadays don't get married right 
away and more often than not, end up living together long before marrying.  
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this mean they do not consult with one another as husband and wife?  Does 
this mean they are not responsible for one another?  Does this mean they do 
not share each others' expenses and support each other?  Does this mean they 
are not committed???  A piece of paper DOES NOT marry people, people 'marry' 
which means they COMMIT to each and in that sense, we WE MARRIED EACH OTHER!

THE POINT:
I DO NOT mean to take money away from his mother, the "next of kin," but 
merely want to be INCLUDED in this along with her.  She may have raised him, 
BUT I SHARED HIS LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Victim Compensation Act NEEDS to 
recognize these unions and recognize all fiances' VERY REAL PAIN, SUFFERING &amp;
LOSS.

Best regards,
Individual Comment
Fiance of Firefighter    

 
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Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:52 PM
9/11 VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND

Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am touched by the outpouring of support from our country to the victims of 
the tragedy of September 11th.  I understand there may be some question as to 
whether to include the partners and families of the gay and lesbian victims.  
I am shocked that such a question should even arise. Certainly every person 
who suffered or died at the hands of the terrorists deserves equal treatment, 
including financial benefits to surviving partners and family members.  The 
hatred that hijacked those planes believes that for reason of birth, life 
style, nationality or religion, certain people do not deserve to live.  I 
pray we do not perpetuate that divisive thinking within our own country.  

Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Sherman Oaks, CA

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Monday, January 14, 2002 10:45 AM
(no subject)

                                                                   
In response to Special Master Kenneth Feinberg:

My son, &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp , a New York City Firefighter, perished in the World 
Trade Center. My son was 29 years of age, single with no children and earned 
approximately $50,000 per year. 

 According to the guidelines in the "Presumed Economic and Non-Economic Loss 
Tables" on the USDOJ website his life would be worth approximately $816,000 
minus "collateral payment". He had a $200,000 life insurance policy and as a 
fireman who dies in the line of duty that sum is augmented by an additional 
$50,000 to his beneficiaries.  My wife and I are the next of kin, however, my 
son named his two brothers and sister as beneficiaries of  his life 
insurance. We were recipients of a federal death benefit of $250,000 and as 
next of kin we are eligible to collect his pension of $2,025 per month. My 
wife is 57 years old and I am 60 years old. 

When this legislation was enacted and Congress bailed out the airlines, The 
City of New York, and the lease holder on the World Trade Center building, 
the intent of this law was that this fund would replace the rights of the 
families to sue those entities. Now the Special Master has stated that the 
collateral payments must be deducted off of any settlement. At the time this 
bill was passed into law the number of casualties was thought to be over 
10,000. Since that time we have learned that because of the efforts of the 
over 400 firefighters, policemen and rescue workers who perished in the World 
Trade Center over 25,000 lives were saved  in the greatest rescue ever 
achieved, bringing the death toll to around 3,000. These people perished 
because of a terrorist attack on The United States.  

To Mr. Feinberg I pose the question, "how much would my son's life be worth 
to him if he helped save his life or the life of one of his loved ones"! 

I urge you to please follow the will of Congress who's intent was not to 
further desecrate the memories of those who gave all in this first battle by 
a foreign power on our beloved shores.

Below is a photo of our brave son, he is not just a name.



Individual Comment
Brooklyn, New York
 
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Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:27 AM
THE PLAN

I  JUST  CAN'T  UNDERSTAND WHY GOVERNMENT  MAKES EVERYTHING SO
COMPLICATED!

WHY  NOT  A  FLAT  RATE  FOR  EVERYONE,  AND EXTRA FOR EACH DEPENDENT?
SIMPLE?    I THINK SO!

AND  MR. FEINBERG,  LET'S NOT HAVE  TO  HEAR  YOU  SAY THIS IS A
'CHARITABLE GESTURE FROM THE TAXPAYERS'   AGAIN!

THE COMMENT  MAKES  ME THINK THAT  IT  WAS YOUR INTENTION TO AGITATE
THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER  INTO  A  BELIEF  THAT  THE FAMILIES ARE SIMPLY
UNGRATEFUL  IF THEY DON'T BUY INTO THIS DEAL COMPLETELY.   HOGWASH!

YOU  ARE  TAKING  THE  RIGHTFUL  ABILITY  TO  LITIGATE   AWAY  FROM
EACH  FAMILY.   THAT MAKES  THIS  PROGRAM  A  BUSINESS DEAL, WITH  MY
SIDE  UNABLE  TO  NEGOTIATE  THANKS  TO CONGRESS.

OUR &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp WAS  A   POLICEMAN  WHO  LOST  HIS LIFE  SAVING  OTHERS ON
THAT UGLY DAY.
POLICE OFFICER &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp, 30, WAS A MEMBER OF THE NYPD ELITE
EMERGENCY SERVICE UNIT, &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp.

NOW WE ARE TOLD WE MUST DEDUCT HIS LIFE INSURANCE FROM THE 'AWARD' AND A
VAGUE  'PENSION ADJUSTMENT'.

YOU WEREN'T PAYING HIS INSURANCE PREMIUMS, HE WAS. AND WE WOULD RATHER
HAVE HIM ALIVE WITH US TODAY TO COLLECT HIS OWN PENSION. A PENSION, I
MIGHT ADD, THAT HE CONTRIBUTED TO.

WHY NOT DEDUCT HOME EQUITY, STOCKS AND BONDS, SAVINGS ACCOUNTS AND I
WILL LOOK FOR A JAR IN THE HOUSE WHERE THERE  MAY BE SOME  SPARE
CHANGE  WE CAN ROLL UP AND DEDUCT FROM  THIS   'CHARITABLE GESTURE' AS
WELL.

"CHARITABLE GESTURE ON THE PART OF THE TAXPAYERS"  IS A FREE  TICKET TO
A  MOVIE  I'VE  SEEN  A  HUNDRED  TIMES  BEFORE.   NO THANKS.

I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, SOMEHOW, THE &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp
WILL OWE THE GOVERNMENT MONEY!

RESPECTFULLY,

Individual Comment 
PLAINVIEW, NEW YORK 


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Monday, March 18, 2002 4:29 PM


I as an American gay person am outraged that gay and lesbian partners of
those who died on September 11 are 
not automatically going to receive the same benefits as heterosexual
spouses, I have personal friends that lost partners.  The government wants
us to fight for it's freedom which we do without question but when we die
for our country or in incidents like Sept 11 we are outcast.  How can you as
fellow Americans allow this to happen.  Something has to be done to rectify
this major infraction.


Individual Comment
Brooksville, Florida



 
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Friday, November 30, 2001 6:02 AM
Victim Compensation for Sept 11


Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice

Dear Mr. Zwick,

It would be most cruel to isolate certain Americans from potential benefits 
of the victim's compensation fund for Sept 11th.

Lesbian and gay Americans injured or killed shared the same horror on that 
day and their spouses and families now share the same pain.

I urge you to include among relatives eligible for compensation all those who 
lost 
their life partners or de facto parents or children, regardless of sexual 
orientation or marital status. 

Thank you.

Individual Comment
Prospect, KY

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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: New Vote.com votes as of 11:16 AM EST on January 24th, 2002


Dear September 11th Victim Compensation Fund,

Vote.com is the Internet's most popular voting site.  Millions of people regularly express their opinions and - in just one click - automatically send their views to important decision makers like you.

Here are the latest votes on the question, DOES THE GOVERNMENT'S AID PROGRAM FOR FAMILIES OF SEPT. 11 VICTIMS GO FAR ENOUGH?:

YES: 108 votes 
NO: 5 votes 

Group Comment 


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Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:02 AM
rumor

Why am I surprised to hear that they are not compensating domestic partners
the same as married  survivers of the victims of 9/11. The horrible
treatment of the women is Afganistan is so obvious now but how come the lack
of equal protection  for gay people in this country isn't even noticed.
Althought they still have the same bills to pay and felt the same horrific
pain from losing your loved one but for some reason it just doesn't matter ?
Some day there will be a loud pop and it will be the sound of those doing
all the discriminating pulling their head             , and then things will be good, equal and fair and everyone will live happily ever after in
peace and harmony. I hope the pop comes soon.

Individual Comment

 
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