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Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:44 PM
911 Compensation Fund

Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice

Dear Mr. Zwick:
  
I am writing in response to the Department's request for public comments regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing and the administering  "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund." 
I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure compensation is available to all victims of the attack, including the committed partners and the non-biological children of gay and lesbian victims.
 
It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and 
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Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom left behind loved ones. I urge the Department to honor these bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian victims as you would any other.
 
Sincerely yours,

Individual Comment
New York, NY

 
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Saturday, December 15, 2001 2:38 PM
Re: ALERT: Act Now To Help ALL Victims Of Sept. 11-FYI Union 3979

To:  Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
       Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
       U.S. Department of Justice

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public comments
regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing and administering the
"September 11 Victim Compensation Fund."

I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure compensation
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It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic losses suffered
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personal of losses from these horrific attacks.

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom left behind
loved ones.  I urge the Department to honor these bonds by treating the
families of gay and lesbian victims as you would any other.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment
McMinnville, OR 


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December 13, 2001                            


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

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I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
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Sincerely,
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Memphis,TN 

 
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
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Individual Comment
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Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:05 PM
(no subject)

It's disgustful how greedy the victims of Sept 11 have become. I heard a lady 
bithching that she would not be able to afford to continue sending her kids 
to private schools. I lost my mother when I was 12 years old and no one 
bailed us out. We had to adjust to our new realities which including moving 
to a smaller house, changing schools and no more family trips. That is life 
and sometimes its unfortunate and unfair, and realities must be affronted 
regardless if they are 9/11 victims or victims of any other events. The 
government has no right of using taxpayers money and making millionaires out 
of victims of unforeseen events.
  
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Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:04 PM
Victims compensation

I am attaching what I sent to the Families of September 11, and I want
you to know that this is the feeling of many of the people that I talk
to in my community.

Thank you

To Whom it may concern,

I do not want to sound cold hearted, callous, or uncaring, but many of
the families involved, including your organization, sound greedy and
self-righteous.  Yes, you lost your loved ones, but so do families of
soldiers in combat, police officers, firefighters, and many others.  Is
it the job of the government to compensate these people also?  What
about the soldier who loses his life and only has $10,000 of GI
insurance, or the police officer who is shot by a crackhead?  They are
not reembursed with this extraordinary amount that you are receiving.

$1.65 million is ample, and proceeds from life insurance or worker's
compensation should be deducted from this amount.  You are greedy to
want more, when there are 34 million people in this country without
health insurance, people are going hungry, people are homeless, and
children are mistreated.  Who do you think you are to demand more?

Most people are afraid to write you because they may sound cruel, but
the talk in the coffee shops, barber shops, beauty parlors, and the
street, all back up what I am saying.  Be thankful for what you are
getting, and do not take any more advantage of the generous American
public.

Individual Comment 


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Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:25 PM
Victim Compensation


Victimcomp.comments@usdoj.gov


I do not know the amount set-aside for the 911 Victims in 
New York, Pennsylvania and Washington.  However, rates of 
payment should be based on Current Annual Middle Individual-
Income level.  Those who earned less than the National 
Average would probably have not covered themselves with 
life insurance or only with a low amount.  Nor might they 
have been working in jobs that provided employer paid 
medical insurance or Worker's Compensation, pensions and 
the like.


Pensions, Charity Awards and Worker&amp;#8217;s Compensation, Life, 
Medical or business or State Disability insurance, and 
Social Security should "not" have to be exhausted in order 
to receive the benefit from the government. Therefore, the 
victims in the higher income brackets who have these things 
will not appear to be penalized.


I have not seen that people cannot sue any other entity.  
Many businesses in and around the World Trade Center are 
gone, or reduced.  Yet there is the potential for victims 
or their heirs to sue. These awards should also not have to 
be exhausted in order to collect the government award.  
This is a payment made on behalf of the airlines, which 
would otherwise be liable regardless of any other of these 
compensations.


Victim Compensation should be considered a &amp;#8220;minimal 
supplement&amp;#8221; to their Loss of Income. It is meant to help 
the families meet the financial challenge of losing a 
provider through death or through disability (based on a 
typical insurance company schedule for disability or 
dismemberment/disfigurement, and medical expenses not 
covered by insurance) in their household. As long as you 
are bailing out the airlines, the limit per beneficiary 
should be modeled after no more than the middle individual-
income base.


However, where the victim who died is a child up to age 18, 
(or college students to age 25) it would be assumed they 
had not been a primary contributor to a household, yet a 
compensation should be awarded. It would seem the minimum 
amount (1 year income) on the schedule would still be 
awarded as there are expenses with burial and some family 
members may not have had paid bereavement days through 
their employers.  This is the case where humanity is 
applied to show some value to the grief.


Those injured, yet not disabled or disfigured, should also 
receive compensation for time lost at work, plus medical 
expenses not covered by insurance.  Example: the Middle-
Individual-Income Adjusted rate x hours missed ($14.37 x 
120 hours = $1,724.40 and out-of-pocket medical expenses).


Assumption:
* 20 years old would have a projected income for 45 years   
  (to age 65)
&amp;#61623; Annual National Average is somewhere near $28,000 
($13.46/hr.)
&amp;#61623; Insurance premium for medical coverage (employer paid 
portion, i.e., 80%) of perhaps $.91/hour ($200 mo. x 
80% /2080)  
* TOTAL Adjusted First Year income: $29,889.60 ($14.37/hr.)
* .03 projected increase per year (or whatever the national 
average on increases actually is):


Table shows simplified increments:


1-year (Minimum): $ 29,889.60
5-year: $128,798.35
10-year: $312,761.17
20-year: $773,255.15
30-year: $1,392,120.55
40-year: $2,223,823.89
45-year (Maximum): $2,741,469.97


Payment for a Death would require an amount adjacent to the 
number of years they would have lived before the 65-year 
retirement age, but &amp;#8220;not less&amp;#8221; than $29,889.60 (that would 
cover those past the retirement age).
 

If Joe and Mary Smith were each 35 years old and died in 
the event, their heirs would be entitled to a total of 
$2,784,240 (2 x the 30-year rate). Which, if deposited and 
accrued .04 interest/year, it would provide $111,369 
interest income a year on which to live, the equivalent of 
each earning $55,684/year. If they follow this method of 
preserving their award, the first year of annual income 
will then be near twice the National Middle-Income level, 
while maintaining the original award amount.


I believe this would be fair since the beneficiaries would 
be signing away the right to sue the airlines for wrongful 
death, malpractice, pain and suffering, unsafe conditions, 
and etc. 
If you do not have $12+ Billion, use the Minimum Wage 
scenario because that amount is the &amp;#8220;least any citizen 
could have earned&amp;#8221;:


Assumption:
* 20 years old would have a projected income for 45 years   
  (to age 65)
&amp;#61623; Annual Minimum Wage is somewhere near $13,000 ($6.25/hr.)
&amp;#61623; Insurance premium (employer paid) of perhaps $.91/hour 
(Employee only, paid at 80% of full medical premium by 
employer)
* Total first year income: $14,892
* .03 increase projected per year:


Table shows simplified increments:


1-year (Minimum): $ 14,892
5-year: $64,175
10-year: $155,836
20-year: $385,282
30-year: $693,638
40-year: $1,108,043
45-year (Maximum): $1,365,965


In this scenario, Joe and Mary Smith&amp;#8217;s heirs would receive 
$1,387,276.  Which, if deposited and accrued .04 
interest/year, would provide $55,491 interest income a year 
on which to live, the equivalent of each earning 
$27,745.50/year.  If they follow this method of preserving 
their award, the annual income will then be near the 
National Middle-Income level the first year while 
maintaining the original award amount.  It will have 
allowed the beneficiaries who would otherwise not have 
received Worker&amp;#8217;s Compensation, Pensions, Charity Awards 
and Life, Medical or Disability insurances, or had the 
ability to sue the airlines, that extra margin of relief.


If you use a formula similar to one of these ideas, drop me 
a line.  I&amp;#8217;d like to know my idea was a good one.



Thank you,


Individual Comment

 
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December 14, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

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the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of
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double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
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Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,
     
Individual Comment
Santa Cruz, CA 


 
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Monday, March 18, 2002 12:33 PM
Victims compensation fund

Dear Sir/Madam:  this e-mail is to request that you review your policy to deny compensation to the partners of gay victims of the Sept 11 disaster.  It is abhorrant to me that you can discriminate against Americans on the basis of their sexual orientation.  THis is neither right nor fair, and is contrary to the spirit of unification that this terrorist action has evoked in our country.

Please reconsider this most unjust decision.

Sincerely,



Individual Comment
Sherman Oaks, CA
 
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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:31 AM
SUPPORT




Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
chicago, IL

 
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Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

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I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on
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Sincerely,
Individual Comment     
New York, NY 

 
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December 15, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

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Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
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Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Gresham, OR

 
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
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Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Butte, MT

 
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Monday, November 19, 2001 11:02 PM

Counting Unborn Children as Victims of 911 Terrorist Attacks



Regarding your Topic #5 on Claimant Eligibility, we request that you
consider those unborn children who were killed along with their pregnant
mothers as a result of the September 11 terrorist attacks as "eligible
victims".



Thank you.



Individual Comment

Sheboygan Falls, WI

 
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illegel

no money for any illegals!!!!

Individual Comment


 
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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:58 PM
Gays and Lesbians are as equal as anyone else!!!!


December  19, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
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of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
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mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  This, I think,
is dumb because they lost a loved one who was, basically, their husband or
wife.  The only difference is that their partner is the same gender as
them.  Don't build a barrier now.  These people need help too, just like
any other person!  An inclusive policy on the part of the federal
government would help establish an important principle for other such
funds. In compensating victims, real justice will be served only when all
families - and all types of families - impacted by the human rights tragedy
of September 11 are treated with dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Brooklyn, NY
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Wednesday, February 06, 2002 6:20 PM
Question

I do not know if you can help me,  I worked on 39th and Madison (NYC) on 
September 11, 2002,  on the day of the attack I spent 7 hours on my feet 
getting out of the City,  which exacerbated a current foot condition I was 
dealing with, in turn I was put on disability,  while fighting with my 
insurance company to get the appropriate tests to I could be probably 
treated,  finally it is discovered I have a large stress fracture (explains 
why I can't walk for long periods) at the same time my employer would make no 
accommodations for me to return (I offered to rent a wheel chair, and was 
told no),  I have now been terminated from my job,  and the situation is not 
good - however, a friend suggested that I contact this fund, because the 
events of 9/11 did exacerbate my situation - I would appreciate any guidance 
you can provide or how I should proceed. Thank you.

Individual Comment

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:54 AM
Discrimination against gay Sept. 11 victims

As a veteran I am outraged the US Govt. would deny gay Sept.11 victims
benefits.Stop this practice right now.

Individual Comment
USAF 1965-1969
--

 
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Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:53 AM
Relief Benefits for 9-11 Victims


December  20, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
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distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
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dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Ann Arbor, MI
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Wednesday, December 05, 2001 3:03 PM
Sept. 11 Victim Compensation Fund




Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request
for public
comments regarding the forthcoming regulations for
implementing
and administering the "September 11 Victim
Compensation Fund."
I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations
that ensure
compensation is available to all victims of the
attack,
including the committed partners and the
non-biological children
of gay and lesbian victims.

It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and
economic
losses suffered by the families of gay and lesbian
victims are
no less than that of other families.  Just as the
terrorists
drew no lines in choosing their victims, our country
must draw
no lines in compensating those who suffered the most
personal of
losses from these horrific attacks.

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each
of whom
left behind loved ones.  I urge the Department to
honor these
bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian
victims as you
would any other.

Sincerely,
Individual Comment
San Antonio, Texas 

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