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Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:10 PM
New Vote.com votes as of 01:10 PM EST on February 06th, 2002


Dear September 11th Victim Compensation Fund,

Vote.com is the Internet's most popular voting site.  Millions of people regularly express their opinions and - in just one click - automatically send their views to important decision makers like you.

Here are the latest votes on the question, SHOULD FAMILIES OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO DIED ON 9-11 GET MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL VICTIMS' FUND?:

YES: 19 votes 
NO: 126 votes 

Group Comment

 
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Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:20 PM
Victim Compensation Fund - Published rules &amp; compensation matrices.

To whom it may concern:

I had just reviewed the published matrices. I don't know who or with what in mind the 
matrices were created, but it seems rather obvious that the location of the disaster did 
not even come into their mind when calculating potential economic loss. The WTC hosted 
the people with the highest potential for increased income. Starting salaries including 
bonuses are higher than the median income for the entire country and yet unfortunately 
the numbers shown seem to treat those that had to graduate from Ivy League colleges such 
as Columbia with degrees in such fields such as economics or other sciences, recruited by 
such companies as  Cantor Fitzgerald as though they had they had the earning potential of 
a stock person in a local Kmart. 

Young single people just starting out in life are penalized to such a degree that to a 
cynical person it would seem that the Special Master found a way to guarantee that we 
would have to hire lawyers to sue all the parties to the disaster.

A 25 year old that at a company such as Cantor starting out with $45K per year is assumed 
that he would only have accumulated only 600K over the next 38+  years. The $600K is 
computed based on the published number of $846484 less the $250,000 for none economic 
loss. These numbers are an insult to ones intelligence and to the people who perished at 
those sites and will guarantee that very few will avail themselves of this route. At the 
very least the numbers published are 1/3 what those in the financial industry would have 
guessed at the low range of economic loss.


Individual Comment
Oceanside, NY

 
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Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: Equal Access to Sept. 11th funds


December  20, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
of equality, by including among relatives eligible for compensation those
who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
York has already adopted such a policy, granting compensation benefits "on
a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day to day activities
and the emotional bonds of family deserves help in this time of need."

Many lesbian and gay people were killed in the September 11th attacks.
Since then, lesbian and gay surviving partners of those killed have had
mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
important principle for other such funds.  In compensating victims, real
justice will be served only when all families - and all types of families -
impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment 
Princeton, NJ 


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January 3, 2002


Re: World Trade Center Disaster

Dear Honorable Representatives:

     This office represents one of the victims of the United Flight 93.

     I note that regulations were published by Special Master Kenneth Feinberg and the
Department of
Justice with regard to compensating victims of the World Trade Center disaster. I believe that the
regulations 
are totally inadequate in that they place arbitrary limits on both economic and non-economic loss.
Additionally, 
they establish predetermined, presumptive guidelines that will be utilized to make awards. In
essence this means
that the award has been predetermined without listening to any evidence whatsoever. I ask that
you contact 
Kenneth L. Zwick, Director of the Office of Management Programs, Civil Division, at the United
States
Department of Justice and express your dissatisfaction with these regulations.

     Thank you for your courtesy and cooperation. 

                                   Very truly yours,

                                   Individual Comment
Walden, NY

 
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Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:57 PM
Benefits for Gay/Lesbian Partners


December  18, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

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movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
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mixed results in obtaining equal treatment at the local level in the
distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
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dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
ny, NY
 
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Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:23 PM
September 11 Victim Compensation Fund

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public
comments regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing
and administering the "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund." 
I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure
compensation is available to all victims of the attack,
including the committed partners and the non-biological children
of gay and lesbian victims.

It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic
losses suffered by the families of gay and lesbian victims are
no less than that of other families.  Just as the terrorists
drew no lines in choosing their victims, our country must draw
no lines in compensating those who suffered the most personal of
losses from these horrific attacks.

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom
left behind loved ones.  I urge the Department to honor these
bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian victims as you
would any other.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment
San Francisco CA 

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Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:06 AM
equal treatment



December  27, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
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who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
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a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
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distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
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Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment

tempe, az




 
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Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:36 AM
9-11

Please remember that Gays and Lesbians are just as important as anyone in he disaster that happened on 911.  

Please do not discriminate against Gays and Lesbians. They should be compensated just as everyone else is.



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     Pittsburgh, PA




Kenneth L. Zwick, Director 
Office of Management Programs
Civil Division
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Main Building, Room 3140
950 Pennsylvania Ave. NW
Washington, D.C. 20530

Dear Sir,


     We are writing in regard to the September 11 Victim
Compensation Fund, established by the Air Transportation
Safety and System Stabilization Act. The fund is the subject
of proposed rulemaking by the Justice Department. It is to 
provide compensation to persons injured in the terrorist acts
and the families of those killed. Compensation should be 
provided equitably to all victims. In order to do so, it is 
necessary that gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered 
people and their families be included. We request that 
appropriate rules be promulgated to provide for that.

                    Sincerely,
Comment By:
                    Gertrude Stein Political Club of Greater Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA
 
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Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:18 PM
Compensation to the loved one of Gay Victims

As a Lesbian who has been in a committed, monogamous relationship for ten 
years I am outraged that the partners of the gay victims of the 9/11 tragedy 
will not be offered the same compensation as the families of heterosexual 
victims. Kenneth Feinberg's reasoning is ludicrous. If gays and lesbians are 
left out of his program to the extent that their own states don't include 
them, how does he justify offering benefits to illegal aliens who are being 
coaxed into coming forward to make claims by an assurance from the Attorney 
General of the US that they will not be penalized and neither will their 
employers. Am I missing something or is Feinberg being selective about the 
laws that will be ignored and those that will be enforced? Personally I have 
no problem with illegal aliens being compensated. They, like all others 
including gay and lesbians, who have had to deal with the gut wrenching agony 
of losing their loved ones, deserve it. My problem is with the homophobia and 
hypocrisy of our government officials.




Individual Comment
Royal Oak, Michigan 
 
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                         3.13.02

Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs
Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice
Main Building, Room 3140
950 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20530
                         RE: Compensation for 9/11 Survivors

I am disgusted that you effectively excluded the survivors of gay and 
lesbian Americans who died on 9/11 from receiving  benefits due them from the 
9/11 Compensation Fund.

It is completely unacceptable for you to defer to state law on this issue. This is
not a state issue. It is a federal issue. You are fully aware that only two states
have laws that recognize gay partnerships. Your deferral to state law is clearly
nothing more than a thin fabrication to avoid responsibility for your morally
sadistic decision to dishonor the survivors of gay men and women.

Your decision brings to mind too clearly the decision of some of the commanders
of allied troops which liberated the concentration camps after the Nazi
collapse. They ordered that gay concentration camp victims be held in the
camps-among the smoldering and rotting dead-because under German law
their homosexuality made them common criminals. That decision was fairly
quickly reserved, and I hope you will reserve yours.

Yours Sincerely

Individual Comment
San Diego, CA
 
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Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:56 AM
THE LIST: ALERT-Protest 9/11 Fund Exclusion of Gays

We live in the greatest country in the would. Why is it so hard for people to 
just get over themselves? I would like a question answered. Why will gay 
partners not receive any money for the 9/11 fund.If you give it to the 
families and aliens that don't even belong in this country why wont you pay 
it to the companions and loved one of gays? The bottom line is are you just 
stupid people.
   People are people not matter who they are and what they do in there privet 
lives. I still think this is a free country unless I missed the memo.
   People are people and you people need to get over yourselves. Do what is 
right. Show the world and this country we take care of our own first.
                         Sent with faith that you will do the right thing and 
faith in the USA,


Individual Comment

 
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Friday, December 21, 2001 2:10 AM

Non Deceased and Non Injured Victims Assistance

My wife was a Flight Attendant on the date of Sept 11. As a direct result of the incidents occurring that morning, she was furloughed on Oct 8, 2001. Her income of 2300$, monthly, was stopped, and after filing unemployment her benefits reached 396$ monthly. Are there any Assistance programs available to assist us.

Thank You 

Individual Comment
Arlington Texas 




 
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December 13, 2001

Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund 
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September 11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.

Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a diswasher in one of the restaraunts destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayers money went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and families. Gay and lesbian famillies are especially vulerable when one partner is killed. Because the option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in a traumatic predicament of having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunaely, both the Red Cross and the State of New York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The Department of Justice should 
do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very important issues.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Carmel Valley, CA
 
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Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:12 PM
THE WORLD IS WATCHING YOUR ACTIONS


December  18, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
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As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
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distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
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impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
dignity and equality. 

Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Sarasota, FL 

 
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Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:09 PM
equal access to September 11 Victims Relief Fund


December  26, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
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apply basic international human rights standards, and the general principle
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who lost their life partners, as well as de facto parents or children,
without regard to sexual orientation or marital status.  The State of New
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a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that
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distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
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Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.

Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Houston, TX

 
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December 17, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.  Under
traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of
all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a
double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The
Department of Justice should do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Beverly Hills, MI


 
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:09 AM
How Unfair


I'm writing to express my absolute dismay and pain
around the continued unfair treatment of gay and
lesbians.  I have just learned that the September 11
Victims Fund will "not necessarily" provide benefits
to the survivors of gay victims as it will the
heterosexual victims.  In fact, benefits will be
awarded to fetuses... and even illegal aliens... but
not the survivors of heros like &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp ?  &amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp&amp;nbsp , and a handful of other passengers  were good
enough to give their life to make sure another plane
didn't attack innocent occupants of a national
building... but he's not good enough to have his
survivors provided with victim benefits.  What a sad
day?  When will we learn that all people "are created
equal"????

Individual Comment
Atanta, GA 



 
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:39 AM
Concerned.


Victim Fund,

Every so often some words, some action, causes us to tumble and question 
the depths of humanity. September 11 should not be remembered as the 
ultimate tragedy, but glaring awakening in our lives. However, your group 
affixes tragedy to your very meaning of hope.  What hope, what justice, 
what life are you breathing into America's heart by excluding gay and 
lesbian partners from your plan?

There is a total error in Feinberg's explanation of how illegal aliens 
qualify unlike same-sex partners for receipt of aid. Blatantly, homophobia 
induced divides can rule over patriotism. The question is not about the 
money but about the horrendous issue that still permeates a "unified" 
America. WE ARE ALL. ALL what? Human? Alive? American? Excludable? Right? 
Wrong?

If you are trying to avoid doing "wrong" with the "mainstream" of America, 
by State law, is not it best skip picking favorites? Applaud the illegal 
aliens, crucify the queers. Consider the heroes from any time, how many 
based there life appeasing the mainstream?

I am American. I am a person. I cried on 9/11. I am gay. I am no less of a 
human, as you are no more. I am one of many. I will not turn my back on 
injustice, bigotry, and darkness. I cry for Feinberg's soul.

Please, consider your actions.

Concerned,


Individual Comment
College Station, PA
 
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Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:52 AM
discrimination is un-American.

To:

Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs
Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice
Main Building, Room 3140
950 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20530

We are outraged that gay and lesbian partners of those who died on September
11 are not  going to receive the same benefits as heterosexual spouses. 

&amp;nbsp and so many more men and
women were heroes of 9-11 leaving behind loved ones dependent upon them for
love and support.  Many of the heroes were lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and
transgendered - heroes all.  No different than the straight fallen heroes of
that horrific day.  Please do not dishonor they memory by denying benefits
to their loved ones just as you would no deny benefits to the loved ones of
the straight heroes.  If that day taught us anything it was that no
discrimination was made in selecting those to perish.  No discrimination
should be made in selecting those to honor or those loved ones who are
deserving and in need of support regardless of sexual orientation or gender
presentation.

We are outraged that this discrimination is even under consideration.  You
must do the right thing and treat all equally.  

Individual Comment
Syosset NY
 
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