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Sorry if this is a duplicate.  I'm a little worried that X
might not reach you.  Anyway, here is the resolution I drafted.  Your
comments would be appreciated.

======================================================================



A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan, including
Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.


SPONSORS:	[Alders names here.]


WHEREAS,	a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an estimated 7.5
million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
starvation this winter; and

WHEREAS, 	food aid shipments have been disrupted due to security concerns
around U.S. military actions in Afghanistan; and

WHEREAS,	Madison supports U.S. military efforts through many channels,
including the federal taxes its citizens pay, and through its citizens'
participation in the armed forces; and

WHEREAS,	the Mayor and Common Council deplore their participation in actions
that cause mass starvation;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Common Council urge a
resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must be a top U.S.
priority for action in Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
winter makes this difficult or impossible; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT Afghanistan's neighbors should reopen their
borders to allow for the safe passage of refugees, and the international
community must be prepared to contribute to the economic costs incurred by
the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT as the United States engages in military action
in Afghanistan, it must work to deliver assistance, particularly through
overland truck convoys, and safe humanitarian access to affected
populations, in partnership with humanitarian agencies in quantities
sufficient to alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should contribute to efforts
by the international community to provide long-term, sustainable
reconstruction and development assistance for the people of Afghanistan,
including efforts to protect the basic human rights of women and children.
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Folks,

after browsing the action committee page I realized that I am to lead
the crowd in chants.

Suggestions needed!

What should we chant tomorrow?

let me know asap!

thanks,
X
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via http://www.kuro5hin.org/

http://insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&amp;storyid=143236

[Rep. Ron]  Paul [of TX] confirms rumors circulating in Washington that
this sweeping new law, with serious implications for each and every
American, was not made available to members of Congress for review before
the vote. "It's my understanding the bill wasn't printed before the vote
at least I couldn't get it. They played all kinds of games, kept the House
in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful
of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to
members before the vote."

----------------
also...
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/11/14/83952/307

The President of the United States, having "determined that an
extraordinary emergency exists" has signed an executive order which allows
for secret trials, by military tribunals, of captured terrorists.  The
trials could be held in the US or abroad, and there is to be no judicial
review of the convictions or sentences.  The order was signed by President
Bush in his capacity as the Commander in Chief.

specifically:
http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/14/nati
onal/14DTEX.html

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_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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As X stated, the first paragraph was the toughest to write. I think the
following text flows the best, using X's edits and mine. Any feedback?

The main decision-making body of MAPC is the General Meeting. The General
Meeting sets the politics and the overall direction of MAPC. The
Coordinating Committee ensures that the decisions of the General Meeting are
implemented. The CC takes its direction from the General Meeting, and is
accountable to the membership. All decisions made by the CC are subject to
discussion and review by the General Meeting.



_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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From: Frank Paynter 
To: coordination@madpeace.org ; X 
Cc: X 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter

If you would like to change your proposal to the publication of a joint newsletter next month, I would approve.  But commiting to a regular monthly publication, welllll...
 
I'm a little shy about approving this proposal and the reasons are a combination of fiscal and political caution.  If MAPC formally produces a newsletter, how will we assure a continuing commitment to appeal to a broad base of peace oriented people?  If we commit to supporting $500 publication costs, then we're also talking about that plus an occasional $400 or $500 distribution costs to get those 10,000 8 pagers folded into the Isthmus and we're up to $1000 a month.  Sounds like a good agenda item for the General Membership meeting.  I would prefer occasional ad hoc efforts rather than a joint commitment to publish a regular periodical.  
 
Incidentally, the anti war movement may be a minority, but it remains to be seen how small it is.  I've talked and talked and can't find many people who are for the war.
X
ps
I think we could hit a higher energy level, save 95% of that money and diseminate more and better information by saving those trees and going straight to a blog format.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com [mailto:madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:36 PM
To: coordination@madpeace.org
Subject: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter

Educating the public needs to be our number one priority right now, given just how small a minority the anti-war movement is.  MAPC should be disseminating information and analysis on the widest possible basis, and using that information to help bring people into the organization and establish our identify in the community.  As X said at the student teach-in, we need to be thinking in terms of 10,000 copies of our literature, not a few hundred.
 
Following discussions with the South West Asia Information Group, I am proposing that MAPC &amp; SWAIG publish a joint monthly newsletter.
 
The newsletter would be published as an 8-page newsprint tabloid.  MAPC would be responsible for content of pages 7 and 8, plus about a quarter of page one.  SWAIG would be responsible for the remaining content.  
 
SWAIG's content would be similar to what was contained in its initial tabloid -- anslysis of the region, the war, and U.S. foreign policy.  MAPC's content would be a calendar of events, information from the various Working Groups on their upcoming activities, reports on past activities, and other content designed to motivate readers to get involved.  Solicitation of donations would also be included.
 
Approximately 10,000 copies of each issue would be published, requiring a major effort at distribution through literature tables, bundles left at stores, co-ops, etc., passing out at events or to pedestrians, and perhaps even door-to-door distribution in selected neighborhoods.
 
The printing cost for 10,000 copies of a 8-page tabloid would be approximately $500.00, using the non-union printer that SWAIG used for its tabloid.  (I would prefer to transfer the project to a union shop, preferably Port Publications in Port Washington; this may require an adjustment in either the budget or number of copies.)  This cost would be covered by MAPC.
 
I would expect that the newsletter would generate $100 to $200 per month in new donations, based on people clipping a donation request coupon.  Another option would be to sell advertisements in the newsletter to supportive businesses, co-ops, and organizations.  (SWAIG opposed this option, based on possible conflicts with the Madison Insurgent.  I will be meeting with the Insurgent collective to discuss whether they would in fact have objections to this.)
 
If finances do not permit monthly publication, Plan B would be for alternating between the tabloid and a 2-page, 8.5 by 11, smaller circulation, newsletter containing only MAPC organizational info.
 
Because MAPC's contribution to the content would reflect the activities of all of the Working Groups, I believe that the newsletter should be coordinated at the CC level.  (I ran this past O&amp;E, who agreed.)  Options for filling the newsletter editor position would include:
 
(a)  One of the existing CC members could take on this project.
 
(b)  A new at-large CC position could be created
 
(c)  A Newsletter Working Group could be created; or
 
(d)  A volunteer who is not officially on the CC. but is willing to attend CC meetings, could be located.
 
X
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              <text> This article from NYTimes.com
 has been sent to you by x


 hi there special ones,

 i don't know if you all had a chance to read the sunday times-- so i'm
 e-mailing this article-- please pass it on to people if you think they might
 be interested.

xxoo
- x


 
 This Is a Religious War

 October 7, 2001

 By ANDREW SULLIVAN




 Perhaps the most admirable part of the response to the
 conflict that began on Sept. 11 has been a general
 reluctance to call it a religious war. Officials and
 commentators have rightly stressed that this is not a
 battle between the Muslim world and the West, that the
 murderers are not representative of Islam. President Bush
 went to the Islamic Center in Washington to reinforce the
 point. At prayer meetings across the United States and
 throughout the world, Muslim leaders have been included
 alongside Christians, Jews and Buddhists.

 The only problem with this otherwise laudable effort is
 that it doesn't hold up under inspection. The religious
 dimension of this conflict is central to its meaning. The
 words of Osama bin Laden are saturated with religious
 argument and theological language. Whatever else the
 Taliban regime is in Afghanistan, it is fanatically
 religious. Although some Muslim leaders have criticized the
 terrorists, and even Saudi Arabia's rulers have distanced
 themselves from the militants, other Muslims in the Middle
 East and elsewhere have not denounced these acts, have been
 conspicuously silent or have indeed celebrated them. The
 terrorists' strain of Islam is clearly not shared by most
 Muslims and is deeply unrepresentative of Islam's glorious,
 civilized and peaceful past. But it surely represents a
 part of Islam -- a radical, fundamentalist part -- that
 simply cannot be ignored or denied.

 In that sense, this surely is a religious war -- but not of
 Islam versus Christianity and Judaism. Rather, it is a war
 of fundamentalism against faiths of all kinds that are at
 peace with freedom and modernity. This war even has far
 gentler echoes in America's own religious conflicts --
 between newer, more virulent strands of Christian
 fundamentalism and mainstream Protestantism and
 Catholicism. These conflicts have ancient roots, but they
 seem to be gaining new force as modernity spreads and
 deepens. They are our new wars of religion -- and their
 victims are in all likelihood going to mount with each
 passing year.

 Osama bin Laden himself couldn't be clearer about the
 religious underpinnings of his campaign of terror. In 1998,
 he told his followers, ''The call to wage war against
 America was made because America has spearheaded the
 crusade against the Islamic nation, sending tens of
 thousands of its troops to the land of the two holy mosques
 over and above its meddling in its affairs and its politics
 and its support of the oppressive, corrupt and tyrannical
 regime that is in control.'' Notice the use of the word
 ''crusade,'' an explicitly religious term, and one that
 simply ignores the fact that the last few major American
 interventions abroad -- in Kuwait, Somalia and the Balkans
 -- were all conducted in defense of Muslims.

 Notice also that as bin Laden understands it, the
 ''crusade'' America is alleged to be leading is not against
 Arabs but against the Islamic nation, which spans many
 ethnicities. This nation knows no nation-states as they
 actually exist in the region -- which is why this form of
 Islamic fundamentalism is also so worrying to the rulers of
 many Middle Eastern states. Notice also that bin Laden's
 beef is with American troops defiling the land of Saudi
 Arabia -- the land of the two holy mosques,'' in Mecca and
 Medina. In 1998, he also told followers that his terrorism
 was ''of the commendable kind, for it is directed at the
 tyrants and the aggressors and the enemies of Allah.'' He
 has a litany of grievances against Israel as well, but his
 concerns are not primarily territorial or procedural. ''Our
 religion is under attack,'' he said baldly. The attackers
 are Christians and Jews. When asked to sum up his message
 to the people of the West, bin Laden couldn't have been
 clearer: ''Our call is the call of Islam that was revealed
 to Muhammad. It is a call to all mankind. We have been
 entrusted with good cause to follow in the footsteps of the
 messenger and to communicate his message to all nations.''

 This is a religious war against ''unbelief and
 unbelievers,'' in bin Laden's words. Are these cynical
 words designed merely to use Islam for nefarious ends? We
 cannot know the precise motives of bin Laden, but we can
 know that he would not use these words if he did not think
 they had salience among the people he wishes to inspire and
 provoke. This form of Islam is not restricted to bin Laden
 alone.

 Its roots lie in an extreme and violent strain in Islam
 that emerged in the 18th century in opposition to what was
 seen by some Muslims as Ottoman decadence but has gained
 greater strength in the 20th. For the past two decades,
 this form of Islamic fundamentalism has racked the Middle
 East. It has targeted almost every regime in the region
 and, as it failed to make progress, has extended its
 hostility into the West. From the assassination of Anwar
 Sadat to the fatwa against Salman Rushdie to the decadelong
 campaign of bin Laden to the destruction of ancient
 Buddhist statues and the hideous persecution of women and
 homosexuals by the Taliban to the World Trade Center
 massacre, there is a single line. That line is a
 fundamentalist, religious one. And it is an Islamic one.

 Most interpreters of the Koran find no arguments in it for
 the murder of innocents. But it would be naive to ignore in
 Islam a deep thread of intolerance toward unbelievers,
 especially if those unbelievers are believed to be a threat
 to the Islamic world. There are many passages in the Koran
 urging mercy toward others, tolerance, respect for life and
 so on. But there are also passages as violent as this:
 ''And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who
 join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and
 seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every
 kind of ambush.'' And this: ''Believers! Wage war against
 such of the infidels as are your neighbors, and let them
 find you rigorous.'' Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of
 Islam, writes of the dissonance within Islam: ''There is
 something in the religious culture of Islam which inspired,
 in even the humblest peasant or peddler, a dignity and a
 courtesy toward others never exceeded and rarely equaled in
 other civilizations. And yet, in moments of upheaval and
 disruption, when the deeper passions are stirred, this
 dignity and courtesy toward others can give way to an
 explosive mixture of rage and hatred which impels even the
 government of an ancient and civilized country -- even the
 spokesman of a great spiritual and ethical religion -- to
 espouse kidnapping and assassination, and try to find, in
 the life of their prophet, approval and indeed precedent
 for such actions.'' Since Muhammad was, unlike many other
 religious leaders, not simply a sage or a prophet but a
 ruler in his own right, this exploitation of his politics
 is not as great a stretch as some would argue.

 This use of religion for extreme repression, and even
 terror, is not of course restricted to Islam. For most of
 its history, Christianity has had a worse record. From the
 Crusades to the Inquisition to the bloody religious wars of
 the 16th and 17th centuries, Europe saw far more blood
 spilled for religion's sake than the Muslim world did. And
 given how expressly nonviolent the teachings of the Gospels
 are, the perversion of Christianity in this respect was
 arguably greater than bin Laden's selective use of Islam.
 But it is there nonetheless. It seems almost as if there is
 something inherent in religious monotheism that lends
 itself to this kind of terrorist temptation. And our bland
 attempts to ignore this -- to speak of this violence as if
 it did not have religious roots -- is some kind of denial.
 We don't want to denigrate religion as such, and so we deny
 that religion is at the heart of this. But we would
 understand this conflict better, perhaps, if we first
 acknowledged that religion is responsible in some way, and
 then figured out how and why.

 The first mistake is surely to condescend to
 fundamentalism. We may disagree with it, but it has
 attracted millions of adherents for centuries, and for a
 good reason. It elevates and comforts. It provides a sense
 of meaning and direction to those lost in a disorienting
 world. The blind recourse to texts embraced as literal
 truth, the injunction to follow the commandments of God
 before anything else, the subjugation of reason and
 judgment and even conscience to the dictates of dogma:
 these can be exhilarating and transformative. They have led
 human beings to perform extraordinary acts of both good and
 evil. And they have an internal logic to them. If you
 believe that there is an eternal afterlife and that endless
 indescribable torture awaits those who disobey God's law,
 then it requires no huge stretch of imagination to make
 sure that you not only conform to each diktat but that you
 also encourage and, if necessary, coerce others to do the
 same. The logic behind this is impeccable. Sin begets sin.
 The sin of others can corrupt you as well. The only
 solution is to construct a world in which such sin is
 outlawed and punished and constantly purged -- by force if
 necessary. It is not crazy to act this way if you believe
 these things strongly enough. In some ways, it's crazier to
 believe these things and not act this way.

 In a world of absolute truth, in matters graver than life
 and death, there is no room for dissent and no room for
 theological doubt. Hence the reliance on literal
 interpretations of texts -- because interpretation can lead
 to error, and error can lead to damnation. Hence also the
 ancient Catholic insistence on absolute church authority.
 Without infallibility, there can be no guarantee of truth.
 Without such a guarantee, confusion can lead to hell.

 Dostoyevsky's Grand Inquisitor makes the case perhaps as
 well as anyone. In the story told by Ivan Karamazov in
 ''The Brothers Karamazov,'' Jesus returns to earth during
 the Spanish Inquisition. On a day when hundreds have been
 burned at the stake for heresy, Jesus performs miracles.
 Alarmed, the Inquisitor arrests Jesus and imprisons him
 with the intent of burning him at the stake as well. What
 follows is a conversation between the Inquisitor and Jesus.
 Except it isn't a conversation because Jesus says nothing.
 It is really a dialogue between two modes of religion, an
 exploration of the tension between the extraordinary,
 transcendent claims of religion and human beings' inability
 to live up to them, or even fully believe them.

 According to the Inquisitor, Jesus' crime was revealing
 that salvation was possible but still allowing humans the
 freedom to refuse it. And this, to the Inquisitor, was a
 form of cruelty. When the truth involves the most important
 things imaginable -- the meaning of life, the fate of one's
 eternal soul, the difference between good and evil -- it is
 not enough to premise it on the capacity of human choice.
 That is too great a burden. Choice leads to unbelief or
 distraction or negligence or despair. What human beings
 really need is the certainty of truth, and they need to see
 it reflected in everything around them -- in the cultures
 in which they live, enveloping them in a seamless fabric of
 faith that helps them resist the terror of choice and the
 abyss of unbelief. This need is what the Inquisitor calls
 the ''fundamental secret of human nature.'' He explains:
 ''These pitiful creatures are concerned not only to find
 what one or the other can worship, but to find something
 that all would believe in and worship; what is essential is
 that all may be together in it. This craving for community
 of worship is the chief misery of every man individually
 and of all humanity since the beginning of time.''

 This is the voice of fundamentalism. Faith cannot exist
 alone in a single person. Indeed, faith needs others for it
 to survive -- and the more complete the culture of faith,
 the wider it is, and the more total its infiltration of the
 world, the better. It is hard for us to wrap our minds
 around this today, but it is quite clear from the accounts
 of the Inquisition and, indeed, of the religious wars that
 continued to rage in Europe for nearly three centuries,
 that many of the fanatics who burned human beings at the
 stake were acting out of what they genuinely thought were
 the best interests of the victims. With the power of the
 state, they used fire, as opposed to simple execution,
 because it was thought to be spiritually cleansing. A few
 minutes of hideous torture on earth were deemed a small
 price to pay for helping such souls avoid eternal torture
 in the afterlife. Moreover, the example of such
 government-sponsored executions helped create a culture in
 which certain truths were reinforced and in which it was
 easier for more weak people to find faith. The burden of
 this duty to uphold the faith lay on the men required to
 torture, persecute and murder the unfaithful. And many of
 them believed, as no doubt some Islamic fundamentalists
 believe, that they were acting out of mercy and godliness.

 This is the authentic voice of the Taliban. It also finds
 itself replicated in secular form. What, after all, were
 the totalitarian societies of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia
 if not an exact replica of this kind of fusion of politics
 and ultimate meaning? Under Lenin's and Stalin's rules, the
 imminence of salvation through revolutionary consciousness
 was in perpetual danger of being undermined by those too
 weak to have faith -- the bourgeois or the kulaks or the
 intellectuals. So they had to be liquidated or purged.
 Similarly, it is easy for us to dismiss the Nazis as evil,
 as they surely were. It is harder for us to understand that
 in some twisted fashion, they truly believed that they were
 creating a new dawn for humanity, a place where all the
 doubts that freedom brings could be dispelled in a rapture
 of racial purity and destiny. Hence the destruction of all
 dissidents and the Jews -- carried out by fire as the
 Inquisitors had before, an act of purification different
 merely in its scale, efficiency and Godlessness.

 Perhaps the most important thing for us to realize today is
 that the defeat of each of these fundamentalisms required a
 long and arduous effort. The conflict with Islamic
 fundamentalism is likely to take as long. For unlike
 Europe's religious wars, which taught Christians the
 futility of fighting to the death over something beyond
 human understanding and so immune to any definitive
 resolution, there has been no such educative conflict in
 the Muslim world. Only Iran and Afghanistan have
 experienced the full horror of revolutionary
 fundamentalism, and only Iran has so far seen reason to
 moderate to some extent. From everything we see, the
 lessons Europe learned in its bloody history have yet to be
 absorbed within the Muslim world. There, as in 16th-century
 Europe, the promise of purity and salvation seems far more
 enticing than the mundane allure of mere peace. That means
 that we are not at the end of this conflict but in its very
 early stages.

 America is not a neophyte in this struggle. the United
 States has seen several waves of religious fervor since its
 founding. But American evangelicalism has always kept its
 distance from governmental power. The Christian separation
 between what is God's and what is Caesar's -- drawn from
 the Gospels -- helped restrain the fundamentalist
 temptation. The last few decades have proved an exception,
 however. As modernity advanced, and the certitudes of
 fundamentalist faith seemed mocked by an increasingly
 liberal society, evangelicals mobilized and entered
 politics. Their faith sharpened, their zeal intensified,
 the temptation to fuse political and religious authority
 beckoned more insistently.

 Mercifully, violence has not been a significant feature of
 this trend -- but it has not been absent. The murders of
 abortion providers show what such zeal can lead to. And
 indeed, if people truly believe that abortion is the same
 as mass murder, then you can see the awful logic of the
 terrorism it has spawned. This is the same logic as bin
 Laden's. If faith is that strong, and it dictates a choice
 between action or eternal damnation, then violence can
 easily be justified. In retrospect, we should be amazed not
 that violence has occurred -- but that it hasn't occurred
 more often.

 The critical link between Western and Middle Eastern
 fundamentalism is surely the pace of social change. If you
 take your beliefs from books written more than a thousand
 years ago, and you believe in these texts literally, then
 the appearance of the modern world must truly terrify. If
 you believe that women should be consigned to polygamous,
 concealed servitude, then Manhattan must appear like
 Gomorrah. If you believe that homosexuality is a crime
 punishable by death, as both fundamentalist Islam and the
 Bible dictate, then a world of same-sex marriage is surely
 Sodom. It is not a big step to argue that such centers of
 evil should be destroyed or undermined, as bin Laden does,
 or to believe that their destruction is somehow a
 consequence of their sin, as Jerry Falwell argued. Look
 again at Falwell's now infamous words in the wake of Sept.
 11: ''I really believe that the pagans, and the
 abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and lesbians
 who are actively trying to make that an alternative
 lifestyle, the A.C.L.U., People for the American Way -- all
 of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the
 finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'''

 And why wouldn't he believe that? He has subsequently
 apologized for the insensitivity of the remark but not for
 its theological underpinning. He cannot repudiate the
 theology -- because it is the essence of what he believes
 in and must believe in for his faith to remain alive.

 The other critical aspect of this kind of faith is
 insecurity. American fundamentalists know they are losing
 the culture war. They are terrified of failure and of the
 Godless world they believe is about to engulf or crush
 them. They speak and think defensively. They talk about
 renewal, but in their private discourse they expect
 damnation for an America that has lost sight of the
 fundamentalist notion of God.

 Similarly, Muslims know that the era of Islam's imperial
 triumph has long since gone. For many centuries, the
 civilization of Islam was the center of the world. It
 eclipsed Europe in the Dark Ages, fostered great learning
 and expanded territorially well into Europe and Asia. But
 it has all been downhill from there. From the collapse of
 the Ottoman Empire onward, it has been on the losing side
 of history. The response to this has been an intermittent
 flirtation with Westernization but far more emphatically a
 reaffirmation of the most irredentist and extreme forms of
 the culture under threat. Hence the odd phenomenon of
 Islamic extremism beginning in earnest only in the last 200
 years.

 With Islam, this has worse implications than for other
 cultures that have had rises and falls. For Islam's
 religious tolerance has always been premised on its own
 power. It was tolerant when it controlled the territory and
 called the shots. When it lost territory and saw itself
 eclipsed by the West in power and civilization, tolerance
 evaporated. To cite Lewis again on Islam: ''What is truly
 evil and unacceptable is the domination of infidels over
 true believers. For true believers to rule misbelievers is
 proper and natural, since this provides for the maintenance
 of the holy law and gives the misbelievers both the
 opportunity and the incentive to embrace the true faith.
 But for misbelievers to rule over true believers is
 blasphemous and unnatural, since it leads to the corruption
 of religion and morality in society and to the flouting or
 even the abrogation of God's law.''

 Thus the horror at the establishment of the State of
 Israel, an infidel country in Muslim lands, a bitter
 reminder of the eclipse of Islam in the modern world. Thus
 also the revulsion at American bases in Saudi Arabia. While
 colonialism of different degrees is merely political
 oppression for some cultures, for Islam it was far worse.
 It was blasphemy that had to be avenged and countered.

 I cannot help thinking of this defensiveness when I read
 stories of the suicide bombers sitting poolside in Florida
 or racking up a $48 vodka tab in an American restaurant. We
 tend to think that this assimilation into the West might
 bring Islamic fundamentalists around somewhat, temper their
 zeal. But in fact, the opposite is the case. The temptation
 of American and Western culture -- indeed, the very allure
 of such culture -- may well require a repression all the
 more brutal if it is to be overcome. The transmission of
 American culture into the heart of what bin Laden calls the
 Islamic nation requires only two responses -- capitulation
 to unbelief or a radical strike against it. There is little
 room in the fundamentalist psyche for a moderate
 accommodation. The very psychological dynamics that lead
 repressed homosexuals to be viciously homophobic or that
 entice sexually tempted preachers to inveigh against
 immorality are the very dynamics that lead vodka-drinking
 fundamentalists to steer planes into buildings. It is not
 designed to achieve anything, construct anything, argue
 anything. It is a violent acting out of internal conflict.

 And America is the perfect arena for such acting out. For
 the question of religious fundamentalism was not only
 familiar to the founding fathers. In many ways, it was the
 central question that led to America's existence. The first
 American immigrants, after all, were refugees from the
 religious wars that engulfed England and that intensified
 under England's Taliban, Oliver Cromwell. One central
 influence on the founders' political thought was John
 Locke, the English liberal who wrote the now famous
 ''Letter on Toleration.'' In it, Locke argued that true
 salvation could not be a result of coercion, that faith had
 to be freely chosen to be genuine and that any other
 interpretation was counter to the Gospels. Following Locke,
 the founders established as a central element of the new
 American order a stark separation of church and state,
 ensuring that no single religion could use political means
 to enforce its own orthodoxies.

 We cite this as a platitude today without absorbing or even
 realizing its radical nature in human history -- and the
 deep human predicament it was designed to solve. It was an
 attempt to answer the eternal human question of how to
 pursue the goal of religious salvation for ourselves and
 others and yet also maintain civil peace. What the founders
 and Locke were saying was that the ultimate claims of
 religion should simply not be allowed to interfere with
 political and religious freedom. They did this to preserve
 peace above all -- but also to preserve true religion
 itself.

 The security against an American Taliban is therefore
 relatively simple: it's the Constitution. And the
 surprising consequence of this separation is not that it
 led to a collapse of religious faith in America -- as weak
 human beings found themselves unable to believe without
 social and political reinforcement -- but that it led to
 one of the most vibrantly religious civil societies on
 earth. No other country has achieved this. And it is this
 achievement that the Taliban and bin Laden have now decided
 to challenge. It is a living, tangible rebuke to everything
 they believe in.

 That is why this coming conflict is indeed as momentous and
 as grave as the last major conflicts, against Nazism and
 Communism, and why it is not hyperbole to see it in these
 epic terms. What is at stake is yet another battle against
 a religion that is succumbing to the temptation Jesus
 refused in the desert -- to rule by force. The difference
 is that this conflict is against a more formidable enemy
 than Nazism or Communism. The secular totalitarianisms of
 the 20th century were, in President Bush's memorable words,
 ''discarded lies.'' They were fundamentalisms built on the
 very weak intellectual conceits of a master race and a
 Communist revolution.

 But Islamic fundamentalism is based on a glorious
 civilization and a great faith. It can harness and co-opt
 and corrupt true and good believers if it has a propitious
 and toxic enough environment. It has a more powerful logic
 than either Stalin's or Hitler's Godless ideology, and it
 can serve as a focal point for all the other societies in
 the world, whose resentment of Western success and
 civilization comes more easily than the arduous task of
 accommodation to modernity. We have to somehow defeat this
 without defeating or even opposing a great religion that is
 nonetheless extremely inexperienced in the toleration of
 other ascendant and more powerful faiths. It is hard to
 underestimate the extreme delicacy and difficulty of this
 task.

 In this sense, the symbol of this conflict should not be
 Old Glory, however stirring it is. What is really at issue
 here is the simple but immensely difficult principle of the
 separation of politics and religion. We are fighting not
 for our country as such or for our flag. We are fighting
 for the universal principles of our Constitution -- and the
 possibility of free religious faith it guarantees. We are
 fighting for religion against one of the deepest strains in
 religion there is. And not only our lives but our souls are
 at stake.

 Andrew Sullivan is a contributing writer for the
 magazine.

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hi X. and all,

Thanks for all your work on this!  To clarify - who exactly have you been
talking to and do you have any sense for how representative their views are
(at least for the progressive caucus)?  I realize that you'll know all that
better after Thurs night.

Ideally, I guess I'd like to see the "stronger" resolution introduced as a
communication and have the "weaker" one be introduced by one or (hopefully)
more progressive alders.  If that's not going to happen - and it sounds
unlikely from what you've sent - I think we need to pressure the alders
we've been talking to to introduce the "weaker" one before T'ksgiving.  I
have to say I'm really disappointed that they're hesitant to do anything
before T'ksgiving.  After all, the reality we're addressing is an impending
massive humanitarian crisis.  Jeeeeeeezus.  THEY need a breather????

I don't know anything about resolutions introduced as a communication w/out
any alder sponsors, but it seems to me that doing that with our "weaker",
more likely to pass resolution will flag it as unacceptable to the council.
If I were a middle of the road alder and saw that none of the PD alders had
signed on, I sure as heck wouldn't vote for it.  (But I think it'd be fine
to introduce the "stronger" one like that, if we do still decide to
introduce it.)

So, I guess - with the current info we have - I feel ambivalent about the
"stronger" resolution.  If it will help the "weaker" one pass to introduce
it - by communication or by an alder - then I say we go for it.  But the
people we need to talk to for this analysis are the PD alders who are
balking at the "weaker" one.

I strongly feel that we should have SOMETHING - preferably the "weaker" one
unchanged from where we left it (or at least not substantially changed)
voted on by Nov 20.  I feel the broader MAPC would agree with this -
remember, at the last meeting the 1st vote was unanimous support for us
bringing SOMETHING to the council (with a sense of urgency regarding the
imminent starvation of millions), and the 2nd was in support of the
2-pronged strategy.  If we have more info now that the 2-pronged strategy
won't work, the directive from the 1st vote still stands.

That's my rambling input for now.

-X

&gt; Hi Everyone,
&gt;
&gt; The progressive caucus thought they would be ready to act on something
&gt; AFTER Thanksgiving.  Apparently changing "prayers" to "sympathies" was
very
&gt; divisive last time, so they needed a breather.
&gt;
&gt; I still haven't gotten the in-depth feedback on this--Thursday night I
&gt; should.  X has been appointed to do this for me.
&gt;
&gt; X suggested we intro the whole text as a "communication" (no
&gt; alder's name attached).  That could be done BEFORE Thanksgiving.
&gt;
&gt; My first step though will be to call X, to make sure I am
&gt; acting on her excellent strategy advice.
&gt;
&gt; I'd like the Policy Committee's input on something though.  How far do we
&gt; pursue the two-pronged approach?  What I'm hearing from the progressive
&gt; alders is that they don't want something too "divisive" (presumably to
their
&gt; own caucus?), which means they want to back the weakest thing we've
&gt; presented them with.  If we are going to introduce one final text "as a
&gt; communication" I definitely need the Policy Committee's OK on what that
&gt; final text should be.
&gt;
&gt; OK, I'll get back to you when I know more.
&gt;
&gt; Sorry about all the e-mail.
&gt;
&gt; --X
&gt;
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&gt;please read and act. Because no representative from wisconsin is on these
&gt;committees, we should consider contacting Senator Durbin of Illinois and
&gt;Rep. Jackson of Illinois because they are a neighboring state. Here is our
&gt;chance to influence the decision to give billions of apartheid aid to
&gt;israel. Help block it and help shut down the apartheid state!
&gt;--------------------------
&gt;
&gt;Subject: URGENT ACTION:  Aid to Israel: House Conferees Chosen
&gt;
&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;
&gt;The House Conferees on the foreign aid bill (H.R. 2506) have now been
&gt;chosen
&gt;and are listed below.  The schedule for the House-Senate Conference has not
&gt;yet been released, but please make the calls recommended below ASAP.
&gt;
&gt;Peace,
&gt;         X
&gt;
&gt;******************************
&gt;
&gt;The bill giving $2.76 billion in foreign aid to Israel (17.7% of the entire
&gt;foreign aid budget--approximately  $460.00 for every Israeli citizen) has
&gt;now gone to a conference committee to resolve differences between the House
&gt;(H.R. 2506) and Senate (Recorded Vote 312) versions.  You can find the
&gt;details on
&gt;&lt;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR02506:@@@L&amp;summ2=mstatus&gt;.
&gt;
&gt;The bill is subject to modification in the conference committee, and we are
&gt;asking the thousands who receive this email to contact the conferees and
&gt;ask
&gt;that the aid to Israel section be eliminated or suspended until Israel
&gt;complies with international agreements on human rights and the Geneva
&gt;Conventions (in particular:  "The Occupying Power shall not deport or
&gt;transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it
&gt;occupies." -Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949).  When
&gt;calling the office, ask to speak with the staffer in charge of foreign
&gt;relations.  Please call as many of these members as you can, but AT LEAST
&gt;call any who respresent you, as well as FOUR members of EACH house from
&gt;neighboring areas.
&gt;
&gt;Senate Conferees:
&gt;
&gt;Bennett  (UT: 202-224-5444 / 801-524-5933)
&gt;Bond (MO: 202-224-5721 / 314-725-4484)
&gt;Byrd (WV: 202-224-3954 / 304-342-5855)
&gt;Campbell (CO: 202-224-5852 / 719-636-9092)
&gt;Durbin (IL: 202-224-2152 / 312-353-4952)
&gt;Gregg (NH: 202-224-3324 / 603-225-7115)
&gt;Harkin (IA: 202-224-3254 / 515-284-4574)
&gt;Inouye (HI: 202-224-3934 / 808-541-2542)
&gt;Johnson (SD: 202-224-5842 / 605-332-8896)
&gt;Landrieu (LA: 202-224-5824 / 504-589-2427)
&gt;Leahy (VT: 202-224-4242 / 802-863-2525)
&gt;McConnell (KY: 202-224-2541 / 502-582-6304)
&gt;Mikulski (MD: 202-224-4654 / 410-962-4510)
&gt;Reed (RI: 202-224-4642 / 401-943-3100)
&gt;Shelby (AL: 202-224-5744 / 334-223-7303)
&gt;Specter (PA: 202-224-4254 / 215-597-7200)
&gt;Stevens (AK:202-224-3004 / 907-586-7400)
&gt;
&gt;House Conferees:
&gt;
&gt;Bonilla (TX: 202-225-4511 / 210-697-9055)
&gt;Callahan (AL: 202-225-4931 / 334-690-2811)
&gt;Jackson (IL: 202-225-0773 / 708-798-6000)
&gt;Kilpatrick (MI: 202-225-2261 / 313-965-9004)
&gt;Kingston (GA: 202-225-5831 / 912-352-0101)
&gt;Knollenberg (MI:: 202-225-5802 / 248-851-1366)
&gt;Kolbe (AZ: 202-225-2542 / 520-881-3588)
&gt;Lewis (CA: 202-225-5861 / 909-862-6030)
&gt;Lowey (NY: 202-225-6506 / 914-428-1707)
&gt;Obey (WI: 202-225-3365 / 715-842-5606)
&gt;Pelosi (CA: 202-225-4965 / 415-556-4862)
&gt;Rothman (NJ: 202-225-5061 / 201-646-0808)
&gt;Sununu (NH: 202-225-5456 / 603-641-9536)
&gt;Wicker (MS: 202-225-4306 / 662-844-5437)
&gt;Young (FL: 202-225-5961 / 813-893-3191)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;         Also, please contact the White House (202-456-1111) and ask the
&gt;President to be prepared to veto this bill.
&gt;
&gt;TALKING POINTS
&gt;
&gt;         1.  The major talking point that is likely to resonate with House
&gt;and Senate members is that aid to Israel at this time will have a seriously
&gt;negative impact on the President's anti-terrorism efforts and will put
&gt;American citizens at risk.
&gt;
&gt;2.  If you think the Representative/Senator might be receptive, you might
&gt;also talk about the brutality of the current Israeli attack against
&gt;Palestinians, and the occupation in general.  Be careful with this one
&gt;however, since, unfortunately most members have a knee-jerk positive
&gt;response in favor of funding for Israel.  Better to concentrate on the
&gt;dangers to Americans (which is an argument that I find personally
&gt;offensive,
&gt;due to its clear implication that American lives are more valuable than any
&gt;others). However, it IS the American citizen that votes for these folks.
&gt;
&gt;Some hints about contacting the President, House and Senate:
&gt;
&gt;******CONTACT EARLY AND OFTEN******BE POLITE******CONTACT EARLY AND
&gt;OFTEN******BE POLITE******
&gt;
&gt;1.  When contacting members of Congress, they tend to take more seriously
&gt;the calls and letters that specifically mention the legislation (i.e., H.R.
&gt;2506 for the House--Senate Recorded Vote 312).  You can find contact
&gt;information for additional Senators and Congresspeople at
&gt;http://government.aol.com.
&gt;
&gt;2.  On another note, as long as it is not one of a mass email or mailing,
&gt;they don't tend to look at the source of the information much differently
&gt;(i.e.--phone/email/mail/fax), unless you meet in person, which is of course
&gt;much more effective.
&gt;
&gt;3.  At present (Fall 2001), I highly recommend emailing over mailing. Also,
&gt;it is currently more useful to fax than mail info because mail is backed up
&gt;for weeks due to the anthrax scare.
&gt;
&gt;___________________________
&gt;X
&gt;___________________________
&gt;


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something a friend sent to me and something i need to send onto all of you.  please read on;
http://www.michaelmoore.com/2001_0912.html 

rosanna
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Yup.  That's what I intended.  And here's a copy for "discuss" too.

-----Original Message-----
From: x
[mailto:x]On Behalf Of
x
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:35 AM
To: x
Cc: x
Subject: Fw: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?


I'm assuming that x intended this reply to go to the lists, not just to
me, so I'm forwarding it along.  (If I'm wrong, I apologize, but with time
being of the essence, I decided to take the chance.)

x

----- Original Message -----
From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
To: "x" &lt;x&gt;
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?


&gt; Yes I have an opinion...  I think our reactionary plans to respond to
&gt; egregious actions on the part of the US are totally off the mark.  Barring
&gt; deployment of tactical nukes to the field, employment of weapons of mass
&gt; destruction, or overt invasion with intent to occupy a country, nothing
the
&gt; US does right now will upset enough of the people to help us gather a big
&gt; rally.  A big rally in my experience in Madison is over 1000 people.  A
&gt; medium size rally is between three or four hundred and a thousand.  How
many
&gt; of us think we can even organize a medium size rally in response to an ill
&gt; defined set of "emergencies" that we intend to react against?  We need to
&gt; look deeper for a strategy and tactics that won't have our best people
&gt; burning out from so much work to so little result.  We need to define a
&gt; program of constant social pressure.  We need to keep the issues squarely
in
&gt; front of the people 7 by 24.  And I think we need to do this without
&gt; alienating and polarizing people.
&gt;
&gt; I think the art event planned for next week is wonderful because it is
&gt; independent of CNN ("all anthrax all the time" as x says).  How much
&gt; tabling do we have the resources to support, week in and week out at both
&gt; unions?  How many other "vigils" like the Quaker sponsored ones on Monday
&gt; and Friday can we organize and support?  A few people here and there all
the
&gt; time is far more effective than poorly attended rallies held in response
to
&gt; ill defined emergencies.
&gt;
&gt; I'm not saying all of our rally activities to date have been ineffective
or
&gt; poorly attended... far from it!  But organizers who can help to channel a
&gt; spontaneous response from the people with a rally will be far more
effective
&gt; than organizers who attempt to drum up a response.
&gt;
&gt; I think we need to refine our approaches:  hold rallies that are well
&gt; planned and/or responsive to a clear need; work with education and
outreach
&gt; to see that tables are planned and manned, ummm... personed; organize in
the
&gt; community around people who may want to respond to the war with peaceful
&gt; activity, but could give a rats ass regarding abstruse economic issues
like
&gt; G8 summits.  Want to educate these people?  Give them time and good
&gt; examples.
&gt;
&gt; Comments?  Thoughts?
&gt;
&gt; -x-
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: x
&gt; [mailtox]On Behalf Of
&gt; x
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:35 PM
&gt; To: x
&gt; Cc: x
&gt; Subject: Re: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Aaaargh.
&gt;
&gt; Part of me says "If we have to ask whether we should hold an emergency
&gt; rally, we shouldn't hold it."
&gt;
&gt; The other part of me feels like a frog in a pot of water on the stove.  If
&gt; the heat is turned up gradually enough, the frog never knows when to jump,
&gt; until it's too late.
&gt;
&gt; I realize that's not very helpful.  Anyone else have an opinion?
&gt;
&gt; x
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
&gt; To: &lt;x&gt;
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:34 PM
&gt; Subject: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt; all (this is really a response to x's friday morning
&gt; &gt; call to potential action/questions and marina's friday
&gt; &gt; night hey it looks like we should at least do a picket
&gt; &gt; line sat afternoon emails):
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; if we are going to do this tomorrow, as x is
&gt; &gt; suggesting, i am out, as i have to work, but pls keep
&gt; &gt; me posted, as i will then start the arts chain going.
&gt; &gt; do we want same signs or more? x has sticks and i
&gt; &gt; have cardboard, etc.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; i wonder if, and this is just a wonder, having even a
&gt; &gt; picket when the action is not being well-publicized is
&gt; &gt; a good idea. i know that there is much going on in
&gt; &gt; this war, like all other us "actions" which is
&gt; &gt; underwritten dramatically, and we need to call
&gt; &gt; attention to it, however, folks are more likely to
&gt; &gt; understand what we are calling for and call with us if
&gt; &gt; it is of a dramatic nature. subjective nature, i
&gt; &gt; suppose. as we all agreed at the last meeting, from
&gt; &gt; here on out it is much more subjective than just the
&gt; &gt; bombing beginning.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; regardless, i will pass the word if i hear back from
&gt; &gt; more folks.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; thanks,
&gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- x &lt;x&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hi all,
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; I'm back from work and the media coverage is
&gt; &gt; &gt; different than this
&gt; &gt; &gt; morning. This morning, TV had reported it as
&gt; &gt; &gt; "deploying ground troops."
&gt; &gt; &gt; Now the media is characterizing it as "a handful of
&gt; &gt; &gt; U.S. special forces."
&gt; &gt; &gt; Given that description, it looks like we do not need
&gt; &gt; &gt; to employ our
&gt; &gt; &gt; emergency response today. What a relief!  However, I
&gt; &gt; &gt; think we need to
&gt; &gt; &gt; be READY if troops are sent in. Given the quick
&gt; &gt; &gt; nature in which this
&gt; &gt; &gt; may happen, I opt for planning our strategy now so
&gt; &gt; &gt; we don't have to
&gt; &gt; &gt; scramble later. I think a picket line would be the
&gt; &gt; &gt; most expedient course,
&gt; &gt; &gt; especially given the fact that we've already had
&gt; &gt; &gt; numerous
&gt; &gt; &gt; rallies. Also, a picket line is a lot less work to
&gt; &gt; &gt; organize than a rally.
&gt; &gt; &gt; Rallies involve amplification, multiple speakers,
&gt; &gt; &gt; musicians, etc. We would
&gt; &gt; &gt; need the following to be ready if we decide on a
&gt; &gt; &gt; picket line: press release,
&gt; &gt; &gt; press contacts, bullhorn or portable sound system
&gt; &gt; &gt; (or both), picket signs,
&gt; &gt; &gt; chant sheets, and MAPC literature. These tasks cross
&gt; &gt; &gt; over multiple
&gt; &gt; &gt; committees so I think we ought to decide now what we
&gt; &gt; &gt; want to do and
&gt; &gt; &gt; start preparing within the committees--then we won't
&gt; &gt; &gt; be in a crisis
&gt; &gt; &gt; mode later.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thoughts?
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Peace,
&gt; &gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;x&gt;;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:31 AM
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [MAPC-coord] Re: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action
&gt; &gt; &gt; Protesting Ground Troops
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; CNN is reporting a small deployment of Special
&gt; &gt; &gt; Forces ground troops,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; probably intended to locate targets for air
&gt; &gt; &gt; strikes rather than to engage
&gt; &gt; &gt; in
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; combat.  Fox News is reporting three teams of a
&gt; &gt; &gt; dozen troops each.  One of
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; them reported that there had been numerous prior
&gt; &gt; &gt; sightings of U.S. troops,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; but that this was the first official confirmation.
&gt; &gt; &gt;  It's not the top story
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; either place.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; My recollection from the CC discussions was that
&gt; &gt; &gt; an emergency response
&gt; &gt; &gt; would
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; be automatic in the event of a non-Special Forces
&gt; &gt; &gt; ground invasion or a
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *major* deployment of Special Forces, but that a
&gt; &gt; &gt; small Special Forces
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; deployment would not necessarily trigger an
&gt; &gt; &gt; emergency action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I would also note that, in the two hours since Rae
&gt; &gt; &gt; posted this, there has
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; been no other discussion of an action on any of
&gt; &gt; &gt; the MAPC lists.  So I
&gt; &gt; &gt; don't
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; get the impression that other folks in MAPC have
&gt; &gt; &gt; interpreted this as
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; requiring immediate action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; My own feeling -- perhaps influenced by the fact
&gt; &gt; &gt; that I'm sick and can't
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; help out regardless -- is that this is not a
&gt; &gt; &gt; significant military
&gt; &gt; &gt; escalation
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and is probably just a public acknowledgment of
&gt; &gt; &gt; what has been happening on
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the ground all along.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;x&gt;;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:53 AM
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action Protesting
&gt; &gt; &gt; Ground Troops
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The media is saying that the US has sent ground
&gt; &gt; &gt; troops into Afghanistan.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; had planned on a 5pm action on the capitol in
&gt; &gt; &gt; response to this. I think
&gt; &gt; &gt; we
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; should go ahead, but given all the other things
&gt; &gt; &gt; we are doing, we should
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; keep
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it simple.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I propose we just have a picket line. The
&gt; &gt; &gt; following things need to be
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; done:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Get an announcement out to WORT to build the
&gt; &gt; &gt; action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Get a bullhorn.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Put together a sheet of chants.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What do you think?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Unfortunately, I am walking out the door to go
&gt; &gt; &gt; to work, so I can't help
&gt; &gt; &gt; on
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this. Given the fact its a work day, I suspect
&gt; &gt; &gt; alot of other people are
&gt; &gt; &gt; in
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the same boat. Can someone step up and run with
&gt; &gt; &gt; this?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; x
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Communications Comm Status report 11/09/01

1) The database is in progress.  I have a printed copy of the draft join
form that I can bring to the meeting to show.  New groups are not yet
included.

2) I have added and removed the changing outies from the cc mail lists.

3) Several web pages plus other printed materials need to be updated with
the new outies.  I will work on completing this over the weekend and should
have what I know done by our meeting. One dilema - since the Int'l cmte has
yet to have an official name, I've been holding on updating this info on the
Web.  This includes creating a mail list for this group.

X



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X et al,

at the first meeting, i recall a few (not many, but
very vocal) out of towners who were vehement that we
1.name our group "madison area" and not just "madison"
and also, that we hold meetings off campus. the second
preference was also, i believe, stated from in madison
but not on campus folk.

i agree that for students willy st seems far. but i
also might note that perhaps we have gotten less folk
from neighborhoods because we have only HAD meetings
on campus.
in light of this, i certainly don't want to isolate
the students out from the group, but i also think that
smaller, outreach meetings should be happening in
community centers. the arts folk and i are very
interested in this concept. i do feel that the
neighborhoods need attention too, but so far as coming
from out of town, what's the difference between campus
and willy st? not much. so i would suggest that we do
on campus still, but offer up GOOD parking solutions
and bus info in each announcement about the meeting,
to encourage folks from outside campus to come in. as
well, continue efforts to reach outside the university
to people on a day to day level, and advertise for the
meetings far into outlying communities. for the sake
of saving funds, staying central and reaching
students, campus is a good solution, but not the only
aspect, and should be supported by consistent
advertising out and about.

your transitional cc rep from arts,
X


--- X &lt;X&gt; wrote:
&gt; X and all,
&gt;
&gt; If Wilmar is too far away from campus, then I really
&gt; don't know what the point
&gt; is of meeting off campus -- it's only on the 900
&gt; block of Jenifer St., parallel
&gt; to Williamson St. on Madison's near-eastside.  If
&gt; there's a potential problem
&gt; with that distance, then I think we should remain in
&gt; the campus area and if we
&gt; meet in the campus area, why don't we just continue
&gt; to meet on campus?  I don't
&gt; recall what the idea of meeting off-campus was,
&gt; except that it was a good idea
&gt; and we should get out in the community.  Does anyone
&gt; remember any other
&gt; reason(s)?
&gt;
&gt; In rethinking it, I don't see any reason why we
&gt; shouldn't continue to meet on
&gt; campus until we get other constituencies involved
&gt; which would point to
&gt; meaningful different meeting sites.  It would also
&gt; solve the problem of spending
&gt; that money and more in the future, plus not have to
&gt; deal with a difficult
&gt; situation of trying to organize student
&gt; transportation, on a space for our
&gt; meetings which will start to eat up our budget,
&gt; which could be better spent on
&gt; more important things.  I also remember X
&gt; reporting that we were making
&gt; less and less donations at the meetings.


=====
X 		madison wi usa
                              	x
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&gt; Sit down.  Take a few deep breaths and relax.  Close your eyes
&gt; and ask yourself... when is it right to take another person's
&gt; life?

Is it not moral to take a person's life in defense of your life or that of
others?

==========================================
X
-&gt; Political Science - Criminal Justice
--&gt; email X
---&gt; visit www.execpc.com/~fatboy
----&gt; PGP OK! - PGP ID: 71CEEC76
------------------------------------------
"There are countless ways of achieving greatness, but any road to achieving
one's maximum potential must be built on a bedrock of respect for the
individual, a commitment to excellence, and a rejection of mediocrity."
- Buck Rodgers


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              <text>Hey, all.  Sorry about my abrupt departure Sunday.  My sister's been watching my kids for me during meetings, and has other commitments to get to in the evening; don't mean to be rude.
I'm writing to do the follow up Gillam requested on the "People for People, People for Peace" event.  I hope this will be a clear and read-able version of what I spewed at you in the meeting, something you can work with and convey to your groups.
 
From all committees we request the following: 
 
that anyone and everyone possible make a leafleting piece for the "Information and Inspiration" table.  This is the booth where folks can pick up materials to keep, pass to friends, canvas.  This is all unofficial stuff, not MAPC affiliated, necessarily, but info that people can use for encouragement and proliferation of the peace message.  They can be gentle and non-political, or informative and opinionated, or specifically targeting one problem with the war, etc, etc.  If those doing one of these could bring 20 or so copies to the event, that would be great.  Otherwise, you can attach it in an email to me: X
 
That you support in whatever way possible our campaign to get the word out on this event.  I have some individuals who have volunteered to leaflet, but we may need more help as the event approaches.  I'll keep you posted.
 
Please bring forth suggestions on food donations, musical and kids' acts, and anything else that would help us run this smoothly and make it fun.
 
Additionally, most of you (we hope) will be doing some sort of booth/table for the event. (as suggested below) We have eight tables reserved right now --we will definitely be asking for more.  But, the gist is that you'll all have a six-foot table to work with, and other than that, please see that your information is presented nicely and attractively, perhaps with a sign designating your area, with someone to stand there and be in charge of it!
 
Now, for the individual committee items and efforts that we're requesting... 
 
Action:  
bring materials for a table on upcoming MAPC events, perhaps a sign up sheet for further notification of events, or informative materials -- yours is the most ambiguous.  Use this venue as you see fit...Please keep in mind this is a family affair, and somewhat festive (we hope).  
 
Communication:
Gail, this is actually directed at you!  It sounds like you have already covered the committee's bases with the web thing.  So, if you could keep me posted on how the sewing's going, that would be good.  Also, when and where can I get you fabric?  And, just so you know, it sounds like we will have a few seamstresses at the event working on further sewing, so really if you could just get 5 - 10 bags together before the event, that would be great!  And, if you could let me know how long they take to make, so I can get a feel for what we're dealing with.  I may also ask you to be the "advisor" to the sewing table, in the very beginning, since you will have already had some experience with the sewing.  Let me know if you are comfortable with this role.  Would you want to bring your machine to the event?  
 
Arts and Culture:
We will continue organizing volunteers from the coalition (largely unaffiliated with committees -- off the volunteer sheets), seeking acts and music, finding donations, and overseeing the sweeping organization.  We will plan and create decorations, come up with a floor plan, and signs to designate some of the areas for the "fair"-type environment inside the venue.  We will oversee the peace quilt project, and the other art projects for kids there.  We will create a better flyer for the major distribution of info -- although, if anyone can help with this, it would be sooo appreciated.
 
Finance/Fundraising:
Bring your buttons!  Make a nice little set up for them, etc.  Bring the art and info for the art auction???
Also, if you could get us that tax exempt # ASAP, we really need it!!!
 
Outreach/Education:
Please help with getting the information out to organizations, in church's agendas and bulletins, in school buildings, at pre-schools, to the girl scouts, and the YMCA, etc, etc.  Keep us posted on how that's going, if you can!  You can use the flyer that you have now until we develop a better one (hopefully by the end of this week).  
Also, can you develop or put together some materials on the refugees we're actually helping?
the "this is who you're helping" theme.  If you could make this booth rather catchy, with pictures, a sign with the suggested phrase "this is who you're helping...", etc.  I have an article that I'll give to someone on your committee at the GM meeting.
 
International Solidarity:
If you could do a booth on the international anti-war movement, that would be wonderful.  I"m thinking articles and pictures from the foreign press....  Make it catchy, give it a cool title and sign, so that people can see what it is from a distance.  Also, if you guys could commit, say three or four people to work the event, that would be so great!!!  If anyone has cars and can pick up food donations on the way, that's even better!!!!
 
Labor and Student Caucuses:
Please get the word out to your people!!!  Please consider putting together some kind of booth as you see fit for this venue.  Please encourage your special "spokespeople" (from the students, from the labor contingency) to voice their opinions for the Information and Inspiration table by creating a canvasing piece.
 
Media:
Please contact the normal sources: newspapers, radio, TV, etc, and get the event in the community calendars.  We can talk more about what, exactly should go in there, but I think you all know what is appropriate for these situations, so maybe it would be best for you to take the info from the flyer attached here, from the webpage postings, and from what you see here to explain what the event is all about.  The donation info (what we're looking for) is pretty important, if it can fit.  Otherwise, e-mail (mine?) and web address can be used as info sources for those with questions.
I thought you may also want to see if WORT wanted to collaborate with you on a booth on free press for the event.  Just an idea.
 
That should be all for now.  Attached is the preliminary flyer (very rough, the one you have, more or less) for the event.  I will bring copies to the GM meeting as well.  We need to develop something better for the mass distribution.
 
Thanks so, so much!  Please contact me with any questions, concerns, problems, or criticisms. 
See you Tues.
X







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Terrorism is a tactic of desperate people.  The Taliban was born and bred in the miserable refugee camps of Pakistan.  Today 2 million more Afghans are expected to join these camps and others like them in Iran.  Will they too live for years in poverty, lacking food, shelter, medical care, schooling and hope?  Will they become recruits for terrorism?

Please join the Madison Area Peace Coalition for their holiday season
People for People, People for Peace Event
a celebration of giving, 
Friday, November 30, 2001, 6-9 p.m.
Lapham Elementary School 

Come enjoy entertainment, refreshments, and the good spirits of giving people!  
Bring the whole family!  Lots of fun stuff and important learning opportunities for kids!

This event is free  just bring your donations for the refugees in desperate need.  We are gathering the following items to be sent to the Mennonite Central Committee, a well-respected charity that has been distributing to refugee camps for over eighty years.
Clean Blankets
Money donations, checks written to the Mennonite Central Committee
Supplies for school kits for refugee children:
#2 pencils
crayons or colored pencils
spiral notebooks, letter size
erasers
plastic rulers

A Better Kind of Holiday Shopping!
Give the Gift of Crucial Help to Desperate Refugees.

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, do you find yourself feeling less enthusiastic about buying and receiving holiday gifts?  Does watching the plight of Afghan refugees make you want to share our relative wealth with the millions of people there who are in danger of freezing and starving to death?  Come join us for this celebration of giving and help these people who are in such need.

Sponsored by the Madison Area Peace Coalition.
For more information, please direct your questions to X
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I'll get the minutes posted tonite, sorry for the delay, I've been pretty
busy.

X


&gt;From: X &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Reply-To: coordination@madpeace.org
&gt;To: Coordinating Committee &lt;coordination@madpeace.org&gt;
&gt;Subject: [MAPC-coord] what did i miss?
&gt;Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:13:24 -0600
&gt;
&gt;hi coordination folks.  my apologies for not being able to attend
&gt;sunday's meeting, something came up at my house that i had to take
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&gt;i haven't seen any minutes posted on the madpeace site....  what did i
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&gt;-X
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&gt;_______________________________________________
&gt;coordination@madpeace.org
&gt;http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc


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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=103574

The United States has used the biggest conventional bomb in its armoury
the 15,000lb (6,800kg) Daisy Cutter  for the first time in the campaign.
The fuel-air explosive device, which detonates just above the ground and
whose blast has been described as being like a nuclear weapon without the
fallout, was used twice on Taliban and al-Qa'ida fortifications in the
last few days.
....
The bombs are pushed out of the back of C-130 aircraft on pallets and
detonate about three feet above the ground, covering a mile-wide area with
a mushroom cloud of aluminium powder which burns at about 5,500C
(10,000F).
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X


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discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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I have mixed feelings about this approach.  What do you think?

&gt;  Only Poetry Can Address Grief:
&gt;  Moving Forward after 911
&gt;  By X
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;  In the middle of the Anti-Capitalist Convergence march in
&gt;Washington DC last month, I found myself nose to nose with a line of
&gt;police attempting to push the crowd back.  I was facing an angry but
&gt;very short policewoman so in my case it was actually nightstick to
&gt;bosom. "Get back, get back!" she was shouting, but our line was not
&gt;giving ground.  I explained to her, calmly and I thought, quite
&gt;reasonably, that we were not going to get back, because there was
&gt;nowhere for us to go. I think of that moment now as a metaphor for
&gt;where what I like to call the Global Justice movement is today.  We
&gt;are facing an array of forces telling us to get back, to disperse,
&gt;to leave the scene.  The forces of the state, the media, all the
&gt;powers that support global corporate capitalism would like to see us
&gt;go away.
&gt;
&gt;  But we have nowhere to go.
&gt;
&gt;  We have nowhere to go because the conditions we have been fighting
&gt;have not gone away.  The disparity between rich and poor has not
&gt;grown less, the attempts of the corporate powers to consolidate
&gt;their hegemony have not ceased, the environment has not miraculously
&gt;repaired itself, and our economic and social systems have not
&gt;suddenly become sustainable.   We're on the Titanic; our efforts to
&gt;turn the course of the ship have just been hijacked, and we're
&gt;churning full steam ahead into the iceberg.
&gt;
&gt;  We don't have the luxury of defraying action to a more favorable
&gt;moment.  We need the movement to keep moving forward. How do we do
&gt;that in the face of increased repression and much potential public
&gt;opposition?
&gt;
&gt;  I.  Stand our ground:
&gt;
&gt;  First, we don't panic, and we stand our ground.  Fear is running
&gt;rampant at the moment, and every effort is being made by the
&gt;authorities to increase and play upon that fear.  While the general
&gt;public may fear more terrorist attacks, we in the movement are
&gt;equally or more afraid of what our governments may do in restricting
&gt;civil liberties and targeting dissent.  But either way, fear is the
&gt;authorities' greatest weapon of social control.  When we are in a
&gt;state of fear, we're not taking in information, we're unable to
&gt;clearly see or assess a situation, and we make bad decisions.  We're
&gt;more easily controlled.
&gt;
&gt;  We can learn to recognize fear, in our own bodies, in our meetings,
&gt;in our interactions.  When fear is present, just stop for a moment,
&gt;take a deep breath, and consciously set it aside.  Then ask, 'What
&gt;would we do in this situation if we weren't afraid?'  From that
&gt;perspective, we can make choices based on reasonable caution but
&gt;also on vision.
&gt;
&gt;  II.  Acknowledge the grief:
&gt;
&gt;  911 threw us as collectively into a deep well of grief.  We have
&gt;had to face the awful power of death to intrude on our lives, to
&gt;sear us with pain and loss, to reorder all our priorities and
&gt;disrupt all our plans, to remind us that we walk the world in
&gt;vulnerable, mortal flesh.
&gt;
&gt;  The political task that faces us is to speak to the depth of that
&gt;grief, not to gloss it over or trivialize it or use it to further
&gt;stale agendas.  If we simply shout at people over bullhorns,
&gt;recycling the politics, the slogans, the language of the sixties, we
&gt;will fail.  The movement we need to build now, the potential for
&gt;transformation that might arise out of this tragedy, must speak to
&gt;the heart of the pain we share across political lines.
&gt;
&gt;  A great hole torn has been torn out of the heart of the world.
&gt;What we need now is not to close over the wound, but to dare to
&gt;stare more deeply into it.
&gt;
&gt;  To comprehend that grief, we must look at the possibility that it
&gt;was present within us before the 11th, that the violence and death
&gt;of that day released a flood tide of latent mourning.  On one level,
&gt;yes, we mourned for the victims and their families, for the
&gt;destruction of familiar places and the disruption of the patterns of
&gt;our lives.  But on a deeper level, perhaps many of us were already
&gt;mourning, consciously or not, the lack of connection and community
&gt;in the society that built those towers, the separation from nature
&gt;that they embodied, the diminishment of the wild, the closing off of
&gt;possibilities and the narrowing of our life spaces.  This frozen
&gt;grief, transmuted into rage, has fueled our movements, but we are
&gt;not the only ones to feel it.
&gt;
&gt;  With the grief also comes a fear more profound than even the terror
&gt;caused by the attack itself.  For those towers represented human
&gt;triumph over nature.  Larger than life, built to be unburnable, they
&gt;were the Titanic of our day.  For them to burn and fall so quickly
&gt;means that the whole superstructure we depend upon to mitigate
&gt;nature and assure our comfort and safety could fall.  And without it
&gt;most of us do not know how to survive.
&gt;
&gt;  We know, in our bones, that our technologies and economies are
&gt;unsustainable, that nature is stronger than we are, that we cannot
&gt;tamper with the very life systems of the earth without costs, and
&gt;that we are creating such despair in the world that it must
&gt;inevitably crack open, weep and rage.  The towers falling were an
&gt;icon of an upcoming reckoning we dread but secretly anticipate.
&gt;
&gt;  The movement we need to build now must speak to the full weight of
&gt;the loss, of the fear, and yet hold out hope.  We must admit the
&gt;existence of great forces of chaos and uncertainty, and yet maintain
&gt;that out of chaos can come destruction, but also creativity.
&gt;
&gt;  III.  Develop a new political language:
&gt;
&gt;  Faced with the profundity of loss, with the stark reality of death,
&gt;we find words inadequate.  "What do I say to someone who just lost
&gt;his brother in the towers?" a hard core New York activist asks me.
&gt;"How do I talk to him?"
&gt;
&gt;  The language of abstraction doesn't work.  Ideology doesn't work.
&gt;Judgment and hectoring and shaming and blaming cannot truly touch
&gt;the depth of that loss. Only poetry can address grief. Only words
&gt;that convey what we can see and smell and taste and touch of life,
&gt;can move us.
&gt;
&gt;  To do that we need to forge a new language of both the word and the
&gt;deed.  We on the Left can be as devoted to certain words and
&gt;political forms as any Catholic was ever attached to the Latin Mass.
&gt;We incant "imperialism" or "anti-capitalist" or "non-violence" or
&gt;even "peace" with an almost religious fervor, as if the words alone
&gt;could strike blows in the struggle.
&gt;
&gt;    Those words are useful, and meaningful.  But they're like the
&gt;cliché that the bad poet turns to.  They are the easy first answer
&gt;that relieves us of the work of real expression.
&gt;
&gt;  Lately I'm hearing some of my most political friends say, "I can't
&gt;go to another rally.  I can't stand hearing one more person tell me
&gt;in angry tones what the answers are."
&gt;
&gt;  What if we stopped in the middle of our rallies and said, "But you
&gt;know, these issues are complex, and many of us have mixed feelings,
&gt;and let's take some time for all the people here to talk to each
&gt;other instead of listening to more speeches."
&gt;
&gt;  If we could admit to some of our own ambiguities, we might also
&gt;find that we are closer than we think to that supposed overwhelming
&gt;majority of war supporters, who in reality may have deeply mixed
&gt;feelings of their own.
&gt;
&gt;  IV.  Propose our own alternative to Bush's war:
&gt;
&gt;  Defining the September attacks as an act of war rather than a
&gt;criminal act has only dignified the perpetrators.  Going to war has
&gt;turned us into Bin Laden's recruiting agency, rapidly alienating the
&gt;entire Muslim world.  Bombing Afghanistan has made us look like
&gt;thugs to the Muslim world, (and to everyone else with a heart and
&gt;sense) and bred thousands of new potential ready-to-die enemies.
&gt;The bombing, by preventing relief trucks from delivering serious
&gt;food supplies before winter, now threatens to impose starvation on
&gt;up to seven million Afghanis.
&gt;
&gt;  In spite of what the polls and the media tell us, I don't
&gt;necessarily believe that the bulk of the U.S. population is frothing
&gt;at the mouth with eagerness for Afghani blood. The phrase I keep
&gt;hearing is a plaintive "We need to do something."   Bush's program
&gt;is the only one laid out for us.  The attacks are real, and
&gt;devastating; simply calling for 'peace' and singing "Where Have All
&gt;the Flowers Gone?" does not address their seriousness.  If we oppose
&gt;Bush's war, we need a clear alternative.
&gt;
&gt;  Diplomacy does not mean weakness.  It means being smarter than the
&gt;opposition, not just better armed.  Diplomacy also does not mean
&gt;simply issuing ultimatums backed by bombs.  It means actually
&gt;understanding something of the culture of the people you're
&gt;negotiating with.  It means actually negotiating, offering a carrot
&gt;as well as a stick, being willing to let the other side come out
&gt;with something less than total humiliation.  If the goal of the war
&gt;is truly to get Bin Laden, well, the Taliban just offered to deliver
&gt;him to a third country.
&gt;
&gt;  This could be a moment to switch our policy, to negotiate, to work
&gt;with and strengthen international institutions and the U.N., to
&gt;begin to deliver massive and meaningful humanitarian aid to the
&gt;region.  Any or all of those acts would increase our long term
&gt;security far more than our present course.
&gt;
&gt;  V.  Expose the real aims of the war:
&gt;
&gt;  We have about as much chance of doing any of the above as I have of
&gt;being offered a post in the current Administration.  All the
&gt;indications are that Bush wants a war, to establish U.S. hegemony in
&gt;Central Asia and the East, to forestall an Asian alliance that might
&gt;oppose our vested interests with interests of their own, to take
&gt;control of rich oil resources of Central Asia and provide a safe
&gt;passage for an oil pipeline across Afghanistan, to deflect from the
&gt;illegitimacy of his own presidency, to implement the entire right
&gt;wing agenda.  We need to continue educating the public about those
&gt;aims and about the real consequences of the war.  To do that, we
&gt;need to talk to people-not just at rallies and teach-ins, but in our
&gt;neighborhoods, our workplaces, our schools, on the bus, in the
&gt;street, on talk shows, with our families.  It can be easier to march
&gt;into a line of riot cops than to voice an unpopular opinion where we
&gt;live, but we've got to do it and to learn to do it calmly and
&gt;effectively.
&gt;
&gt;  And while we're talking about the war, we need to make the
&gt;connections to the broader issues we were working on before the
&gt;eleventh of September.  The war can be an opening to challenge
&gt;racism, and to spotlight the U.S.'s historic role of training,
&gt;arming, and supporting terrorists-including Bin Laden and the
&gt;Taliban in previous years. In an age of terrorism, does an economy
&gt;entirely dependent on oil-based long distance transport really make
&gt;sense? (Especially as it didn't make sense before, but never mind
&gt;that.) The Anthrax scares are a perfect opportunity to push for true
&gt;domestic security in the form of a well-funded, functioning public
&gt;health system, availability of hospital beds and medical care,
&gt;support for local food producers, development of alternative energy
&gt;resources, etc.  The right wing has used the attacks and the war to
&gt;justify their agenda, but with a little political jujitsu we can
&gt;redraw their picture of reality.
&gt;
&gt;  VI.  Develop our vision:
&gt;
&gt;  Despair breeds fundamentalism, fanaticism, and terrorism.
&gt;
&gt;  A world of truly shared abundance would be a safer world.
&gt;
&gt;  The policies of global corporate capitalism have not brought us
&gt;that world.  They've been tried-and found wanting.  We need to
&gt;replace them with our own vision.
&gt;
&gt;  The global justice movement has often been accused of not knowing
&gt;what it wants.  In reality, we know clearly the broad outlines of
&gt;what we want even though we have a multiplicity of ideas of how to
&gt;get there.  I can lay it out for you in five short paragraphs:
&gt;
&gt;  We want enterprises to be rooted in communities and responsible to
&gt;communities and to future generations.  We want producers to be
&gt;accountable for the true social and ecological costs of what they
&gt;produce.
&gt;
&gt;  We say there is a commons that needs to be protected, that there
&gt;are resources that are too vital to life, too precious or sacred to
&gt;be exploited for the profit of the few, including those things that
&gt;sustain life:  water, traditional lands and productive farmland, the
&gt;collective heritage of ecological and genetic diversity, the earth's
&gt;climate, the habitats of rare species and of endangered human
&gt;cultures, sacred places, and our collective cultural and
&gt;intellectual knowledge.
&gt;
&gt;  We say that those who labor are entitled, as a bare minimum, to
&gt;safety, to just compensation that allows for life, hope and dignity,
&gt;and to have the power to determine the conditions of their work.
&gt;
&gt;  We say that as humans we have a collective responsibility for the
&gt;well being of others, that life is fraught with uncertainty, bad
&gt;luck, injury, disease, and loss, and that we need to help each other
&gt;bear those losses, provide generously and graciously the means for
&gt;all to have food, clothing, shelter, health care, education, and the
&gt;possibility to realize their dreams and aspirations.  Only then will
&gt;we have true security.
&gt;
&gt;  We say that democracy means people having a voice in the decisions
&gt;that affect them, including economic decisions.
&gt;
&gt;  VII.  Develop our strategy:
&gt;
&gt;  We might begin by acknowledging that we have had a highly
&gt;successful strategy for the past two years.  Since Seattle, what
&gt;we've done is to oppose every summit, as a means of focusing
&gt;attention on the institutions of globalization that were functioning
&gt;essentially in secret, and delegitimizing them.  Systems fall when
&gt;they hit a crisis of legitimacy, when they can no longer inspire
&gt;faith and command compliance.  Our strategy should continue to work
&gt;toward creating that crisis for the institutions of global corporate
&gt;capitalism.  In the meantime, in spite of all appearances the
&gt;government may already be creating that crisis for itself.  For
&gt;ultimately, nothing delegitimizes a government faster than not being
&gt;able to provide for the physical or economic security of its people.
&gt;
&gt;  Now our strategy needs to broaden and become more complex.
&gt;
&gt;  Contest the summits when and where we can, but perhaps with some
&gt;new tactics that clearly embody the alternatives we represent.
&gt;
&gt;  Turn more of our attention to local organizing, bringing the global
&gt;issues home and making organizing and activism an ongoing, sustained
&gt;process.  And find ways to make that process as juicy and exciting
&gt;as some of the big, global actions.
&gt;
&gt;  Find ways to link local issues and actions regionally and globally.
&gt;
&gt;  Start to build the alternatives:  alternative economic enterprises
&gt;on new models, directly democratic systems of governance such as
&gt;neighborhood or watershed councils or town meetings, everything from
&gt;alternative energy co-operatives to community gardens to local
&gt;currencies.  Look for ways to let those alternatives delegitimize
&gt;the status quo.
&gt;
&gt;  VIII.  Organize openly:
&gt;
&gt;  In times of increasing repression, the strongest way to resist is
&gt;not to hide, but to become even more open in our organizing and our
&gt;communications.  The more out there we are, the harder we'll be to
&gt;brand as terrorists.  The more faces they photograph at rallies and
&gt;marches, the less meaningful any single face will be.  The more
&gt;information they collect, the less they'll be able to collate,
&gt;analyze and make sense of it all.  And if they read my email-they're
&gt;welcome to read my email.  Somebody ought to, and I don't have time
&gt;to read it all myself.  Maybe I could pay one of them a small extra
&gt;fee to sort it for me and send me a summary of the high points.
&gt;
&gt;  Security culture either has to be so good you can outspook the CIA,
&gt;or it simply makes you look like you have something to hide and
&gt;attracts the attention of the authorities.  And it makes it
&gt;extremely difficult to mobilize, educate and inspire people.  Yes,
&gt;there are actions that depend on surprise, but with a little
&gt;cleverness we can figure out how to do that in a basically open
&gt;setting.  "And tonight, each affinity group spoke receives a sealed
&gt;envelope-open it at five A.M. tomorrow and it will give you two
&gt;alternative beginning points for your march.  Flip a coin to decide
&gt;which one to go to"
&gt;
&gt;  IX.  Make our actions count:
&gt;
&gt;  Political action may well become more costly in the next months and
&gt;years.  That simply means we need to be more clear and thoughtful in
&gt;planning and carrying out our actions.  Most of us are willing to
&gt;take risks in this work and to make sacrifices if necessary, but no
&gt;one wants to sacrifice for something meaningless or stupid.  We can
&gt;no longer afford vaguely planned, ill considered actions that don't
&gt;accomplish anything-and believe me, I've done more than my fair
&gt;share of them.
&gt;
&gt;  We should never carry out an action that involves significant
&gt;risks, unless the following five points are addressed:
&gt;
&gt;  1.  We know what our intention is-are we trying to raise public
&gt;awareness, delegitimize an institution, influence an individual, end
&gt;an immediate wrong?
&gt;
&gt;  2.  We have a clear objective and know what it is--are we trying to
&gt;close down a meeting, deliver a petition, pressure an official to
&gt;meet with us, provide a service?  What are we trying to communicate,
&gt;to whom, and how?  What would victory look like?
&gt;
&gt;  3.  We make sure the acts we take, the symbols we use, the focus we
&gt;choose and the tactics we use reflect our intentions and objectives.
&gt;We resist the temptation to do extraneous things that might detract
&gt;from our focus.
&gt;
&gt;  4.  We have an exit strategy.  How are we going to end the action?
&gt;How are we going to get out once we get in?
&gt;
&gt;  5.  We have ongoing support lined up for afterwards-legal, medical,
&gt;political support, people willing to offer solidarity if needed.
&gt;
&gt;  X.  Use tactics that fit the new strategy and situation:
&gt;
&gt;  All of us are rethinking our tactics in the light of the current
&gt;situation.  We often argue tactics on the grounds of morality-is it
&gt;right or wrong, violent or nonviolent, to throw a tear gas canister
&gt;back into a line of police?  To break a window?  We might do better
&gt;to ask, "Do these particular tactics support our goals and
&gt;objectives," and "Are they actually working?"
&gt;
&gt;  Those who advocate highly confrontational tactics, such as property
&gt;damage and fighting the cops, are generally trying to strike blows
&gt;against the system.  But at the moment, the system has been struck
&gt;harder than we could have imagined, and is reeling toward fascism,
&gt;not liberation.  In the present climate, such tactics are most
&gt;likely to backfire and confirm the system's legitimacy.
&gt;
&gt;  Many classic nonviolent tactics are designed to heighten the
&gt;contrast between us and them, to claim the high moral ground and
&gt;point out the violence of the system.  But many of those tactics no
&gt;longer function in the same way. Static, passive tactics become
&gt;boring and disempowering.  Symbolic, cross-the-line arrests don't
&gt;seem to impress the public with our nobility and dedication any
&gt;more, even when they are noticed at all.  Mass arrests may be used
&gt;to justify police violence, even when the arrestees were completely
&gt;peaceful.  When the police cooperate in making the arrest easy and
&gt;low risk, the process confirms rather than challenges the power of
&gt;the state.  When they don't, even symbolic actions are costing
&gt;heavily in jail time or probation.  The price may well be worth it,
&gt;but there's only so many times in a lifetime we can pay it, so our
&gt;choices need to be thoughtful and strategic.
&gt;
&gt;  We need a new vocabulary of tactics, that can be empowering,
&gt;visionary, confrontational without reading as proto-terrorist, and
&gt;that work toward a crisis of legitimacy for the system.  We also
&gt;need tactics and actions that prefigure the world we want to create,
&gt;but that do so in a way that has some edge and bite to it.
&gt;
&gt;  Here are a few we are already using that could be further developed:
&gt;
&gt;  Mobile, fluid street tactics:  Groups like Art and Revolution,
&gt;Reclaim the Streets, the Pink Blocs of Prague and Genoa and the
&gt;Living River in Quebec have brought art, dance, drums, creativity
&gt;and mobility to street actions, and developed mobile and fluid
&gt;street tactics.  Such actions are focused not on getting arrested
&gt;(although that may be a consequence of the actions) nor on
&gt;confrontations with the cops, but on accomplishing an objective:
&gt;claiming a space and redefining it; disrupting business as usual,
&gt;etc., while embodying the joy of the revolution we are trying to
&gt;make. In Toronto on October 16, snake dancing columns of people
&gt;managed to disrupt the financial district in spite of a very tense
&gt;police presence.  The Pink Bloc has snake danced through police
&gt;lines.  The Pagan Cluster in Quebec City and DC was able to perform
&gt;street rituals in the midst of dangerous situations, in ways that
&gt;allowed participation by people with widely varying needs around
&gt;safety.  The Fogtown Action Avengers in San Francisco combined an
&gt;open, public ritual which distracted the police from a surprise
&gt;disruption of the stock exchange carried out by an affinity group
&gt;dressed as Robin Hood.
&gt;
&gt;  Claiming space:  Reclaim the Streets takes an intersection, moves
&gt;in a sound system and couches, and throws a party.  A Temporary
&gt;Autonomous Zone is a space we take over and then exemplify the world
&gt;we want to live in, with free food, healing, popular education, a
&gt;Truly Free Market where goods are given away or traded, workshops,
&gt;conversations, sports, theater.
&gt;
&gt;  Street services and alternative services:  Groups like Food Not
&gt;Bombs have been directly feeding the homeless for decades.  One of
&gt;the most successful direct actions I've ever been involved with was
&gt;a group called Prevention Point that pioneered street based needle
&gt;exchanges for drug users to prevent the spread of AIDS.  In DC in
&gt;September, during the Anti-Capitalist Convergence's Temporary
&gt;Autonomous Zone and during the Sunday peace march rally, the Pagan
&gt;Cluster set up an Emotional Healing Space that offered informal
&gt;counseling, massage, food, water and hands-on healing.  The
&gt;IndyMedia Centers provide alternative news coverage and a powerful
&gt;challenge to corporate media.  The medical and legal services we
&gt;provide during an action could be expanded.  Guerilla gardeners
&gt;could be mobilized in new ways.  Imagine a convergence that left a
&gt;community transformed by community gardens, with toxic sites
&gt;healing, worm farms thriving, and streets lined with fruit trees.
&gt;
&gt;  Popular education:  One of the values of mass convergences has been
&gt;the education and training we've been able to provide for each
&gt;other, from teach-ins on the global economy to climbing instruction.
&gt;Almost every Summit has had its CounterSummit.  Most of these have
&gt;followed the rough format of an academic conference, with presenters
&gt;talking to an audience or facilitating a discussion.  But many more
&gt;interactive and creative ways of teaching and learning could be
&gt;brought into them: role plays, story-telling circles, councils.  We
&gt;could hold a giant simulation of a meeting, with people role playing
&gt;delegations and grappling with the issues on the table, but from the
&gt;starting point of our own values.
&gt;
&gt;  People are hungry to talk about the war, about their fears and
&gt;beliefs and opinions. The Zapatistas give us the example of the
&gt;Consulta-a process of going out to the people to both listen to
&gt;concerns and mobilize. We might halt the speeches at a rally for ten
&gt;minutes to let people talk to each other.  Or do away with the
&gt;speeches altogether, and instead ask groups to facilitate
&gt;smaller-group discussions on their issues and tactics, run short
&gt;training sessions, offer games or dances or rituals.  And we could
&gt;develop ways to create instant Public Conversations as actions and
&gt;as education.  Caravans can bring discussion and education out of
&gt;the urban centers, and could embody alternative energies and
&gt;possibilities, running their vehicles on vegetable oil, bringing
&gt;solar panels to power sound systems.
&gt;
&gt;  These are just a few ideas that can stimulate our thinking and
&gt;awaken our creativity.
&gt;
&gt;  XI.  Renew our spirits:
&gt;
&gt;  These are hard times.  Many of us have been working intensely for a
&gt;long time and are now seeing the possibility of our hard won
&gt;political gains being swept away.  Fear and loss surround us, and
&gt;many forces are at work trying to make us feel isolated,
&gt;marginalized and disempowered.  At best, the work ahead of us seems
&gt;overwhelming.
&gt;
&gt;  If we are going to sustain this work and regain our momentum, we
&gt;need to allow ourselves time to rest, to go to those places we are
&gt;working so hard to save and be open to their beauty, to receive
&gt;support and love from the communities we are working for.  We need
&gt;to nurture our relationships with each other, to offer not just
&gt;political solidarity but personal warmth and caring.  Death and loss
&gt;rearrange our priorities, teach us how much we need each other, and
&gt;make it easier to drop some of the petty things that interfere with
&gt;our true connections.
&gt;
&gt;  Many activists mistrust religion and spirituality, often for good
&gt;reasons.  But each of us is in this work because something is sacred
&gt;to us-sacred in the sense that it means more than our comfort or
&gt;convenience, that it determines all of our other values, that we are
&gt;willing to risk ourselves in its service.  It might not be a God,
&gt;Goddess or deity, but rather a belief in freedom, the feeling we get
&gt;when we stand under a redwood tree or watch a bird winging across
&gt;the sky, a commitment to truth or to a child.  Whatever it is, it
&gt;can feed and nurture us as well.  For activists who have some form
&gt;of identified spiritual practice, now is a good time to seriously
&gt;practice it.  For those who don't, it might still be worth taking
&gt;time to ask yourself, "Why do I do this work?  What is most
&gt;important to me?  What does feed me?"
&gt;
&gt;  The answer might be grand and noble, or it might be small and
&gt;ordinary, hip hop or sidewalk chalk.  Whatever it is, make it a
&gt;priority.  Do it daily, if you can, or at least regularly.  Bring it
&gt;into actions with you.  Let it renew your energy when you're down.
&gt;We need you in this struggle for the long haul, and taking care of
&gt;yourself is a way of preserving one of the movement's precious
&gt;resources.
&gt;
&gt;  The goal of terrorists, whether of the freelance or the state
&gt;variety, is to fill all our mental and emotional space with fear,
&gt;rage, powerlessness and despair, to cut us off from the sources of
&gt;life and hope.  Violence and fear can make us shut down to the
&gt;things and beings that we love.  When we do, we wither and die.
&gt;When we consciously open ourselves to the beauty of the world, when
&gt;we choose to love another tenuous and fragile being, we commit an
&gt;act of liberation as courageous and radical as any foray into the
&gt;tear gas.
&gt;
&gt;  There is nowhere left to go, but forward.  If we hold onto hope and
&gt;vision, if we dare to walk with courage and to act in the service of
&gt;what we love, the barriers holding us back will give way, as the
&gt;police eventually did in our Washington march.  The new road is
&gt;unmarked and unmapped.  It feels unfamiliar, but exhilarating;
&gt;dangerous, but free.  We were born to blaze this trail, and the
&gt;great powers of life and creativity march with us toward a viable
&gt;future.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;  X
&gt;  (This copyright notice protects me, as this piece will be published
&gt;in Spring '02  in a collection of my writings called Webs of Power:
&gt;Notes from the Global Uprising.   But please feel free to forward
&gt;this, reprint it, translate it, post it or reproduce it for
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