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Hi x,

I'm responsible for conveying the Action Committee's suggestion to the
Policy Committee for your assistance at MAPC's November 17 action.

The idea we came up with was that it would be great if the Policy Committee
could have letter-writing tables at the gathering. I've seen it done before
and the results are both satisfying and potentially effective. The idea is,
bring stamps, address stickers and envelopes, and have a suggested letter
(or some important points to be made) and some paper, and encourage people
to hand-write their own letters to Baldwin, Feingold, Kohl, Bush and Powell
(or whoever you think is most appropriate). Hand-written letters apparently
are the most effective.

I know one of you expressed concern about the SOA message/connection of this
action but I think we will really still be prioritizing the antiwar message
so don't worry about that. The SOA link is just a new twist to keep the
message fresh, I think. I wouldn't think the letters would even have to
mention it.

Unless you object, I'll be coming to your meeting on Tuesday (briefly) to
convey this suggestion, hear/discuss your committee's response and answer
any questions.

I also am thinking of coming with you to see Feingold, unless you think my
shaved head would tarnish your image. :-)  I promise not to spout socialist
rhetoric. I'd just like to meet the guy and hear what he has to say. And
thank him for having a backbone!

In solidarity,
x
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              <text>What's a blog?
 
Actually, I'd prefer a few bucks of shoe leather going door-to-door to $400-$500 for insertion in Isthmus.
 
And my proposal does include the fall-back strategy of having the newsletter be a 1000-circulation one-sheet leaflet/calendar of events if we can't afford the tabloid.
 
X

----- Original Message ----- 
From: X 
To: X 
Cc: X 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter

If you would like to change your proposal to the publication of a joint newsletter next month, I would approve.  But commiting to a regular monthly publication, welllll...
 
I'm a little shy about approving this proposal and the reasons are a combination of fiscal and political caution.  If MAPC formally produces a newsletter, how will we assure a continuing commitment to appeal to a broad base of peace oriented people?  If we commit to supporting $500 publication costs, then we're also talking about that plus an occasional $400 or $500 distribution costs to get those 10,000 8 pagers folded into the Isthmus and we're up to $1000 a month.  Sounds like a good agenda item for the General Membership meeting.  I would prefer occasional ad hoc efforts rather than a joint commitment to publish a regular periodical.  
 
Incidentally, the anti war movement may be a minority, but it remains to be seen how small it is.  I've talked and talked and can't find many people who are for the war.
X
ps
I think we could hit a higher energy level, save 95% of that money and diseminate more and better information by saving those trees and going straight to a blog format.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com [mailto:madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:36 PM
To: coordination@madpeace.org
Subject: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter

Educating the public needs to be our number one priority right now, given just how small a minority the anti-war movement is.  MAPC should be disseminating information and analysis on the widest possible basis, and using that information to help bring people into the organization and establish our identify in the community.  As X said at the student teach-in, we need to be thinking in terms of 10,000 copies of our literature, not a few hundred.
 
Following discussions with the South West Asia Information Group, I am proposing that MAPC &amp; SWAIG publish a joint monthly newsletter.
 
The newsletter would be published as an 8-page newsprint tabloid.  MAPC would be responsible for content of pages 7 and 8, plus about a quarter of page one.  SWAIG would be responsible for the remaining content.  
 
SWAIG's content would be similar to what was contained in its initial tabloid -- anslysis of the region, the war, and U.S. foreign policy.  MAPC's content would be a calendar of events, information from the various Working Groups on their upcoming activities, reports on past activities, and other content designed to motivate readers to get involved.  Solicitation of donations would also be included.
 
Approximately 10,000 copies of each issue would be published, requiring a major effort at distribution through literature tables, bundles left at stores, co-ops, etc., passing out at events or to pedestrians, and perhaps even door-to-door distribution in selected neighborhoods.
 
The printing cost for 10,000 copies of a 8-page tabloid would be approximately $500.00, using the non-union printer that SWAIG used for its tabloid.  (I would prefer to transfer the project to a union shop, preferably Port Publications in Port Washington; this may require an adjustment in either the budget or number of copies.)  This cost would be covered by MAPC.
 
I would expect that the newsletter would generate $100 to $200 per month in new donations, based on people clipping a donation request coupon.  Another option would be to sell advertisements in the newsletter to supportive businesses, co-ops, and organizations.  (SWAIG opposed this option, based on possible conflicts with the Madison Insurgent.  I will be meeting with the Insurgent collective to discuss whether they would in fact have objections to this.)
 
If finances do not permit monthly publication, Plan B would be for alternating between the tabloid and a 2-page, 8.5 by 11, smaller circulation, newsletter containing only MAPC organizational info.
 
Because MAPC's contribution to the content would reflect the activities of all of the Working Groups, I believe that the newsletter should be coordinated at the CC level.  (I ran this past O&amp;E, who agreed.)  Options for filling the newsletter editor position would include:
 
(a)  One of the existing CC members could take on this project.
 
(b)  A new at-large CC position could be created
 
(c)  A Newsletter Working Group could be created; or
 
(d)  A volunteer who is not officially on the CC. but is willing to attend CC meetings, could be located.
 
X
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it's me in your in box again...

&gt; I've been thinking that a compromise on THAT might be to specifically
condemn
&gt; the use of cluster bombs (on which score we can cite really unimpeachable
&gt; sources like the ICRC and Princess Diana's Anti-Mine Fund ;) ) and
generally
&gt; voices skepticism about the effect of bombing on the humanitarian
situation.

... only if we can get Elton John to introduce the resolution...

&gt;&gt;&gt; WHEREAS,    70 percent of these people are women and children, and the
UN
&gt;&gt;&gt; estimates 400,000 children under five will likely die this year, an
increase
&gt;&gt;&gt; of over 30 percent from last year; and
&gt;
&gt; I don't think I like this phrasing, because it requires one to do a
&gt; calculation.
&gt;
&gt; Instead: "UNICEF estimates 100,000 more children under the age of five
will
&gt; die
&gt; this winter than did last winter, and increase of more than 30 percent;
and" ?
&gt;

I agree that it's better to make the number explicit...

&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; WHEREAS,     food aid shipments have been disrupted due to security
concerns
&gt;&gt;&gt; around U.S. military actions in Afghanistan; and
&gt;
&gt; This would be an opportunity to mention bombing obliquely, if we so chose.
&gt;

Isn't it already?  We could replace "military actions" with "bombing
campaign", but I don't see too much difference between the two.

&gt; If we really wanted to give this resolution some sting (particularly
assuming
&gt; that it might in fact get a bit of national press) we could finish this
off
&gt; this a declaration like:
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the people of Madison, in solidarity with the
&gt; international community and in their capacity as citizens of the United
&gt; States,
&gt; will hold the Government of the United States responsible for both the
&gt; direct consequences of its military policy in Afghanistan and the results
of
&gt; indifference to the priority of our humanitarian concerns.
&gt;
&gt; I don't think that's entirely clear, but I like it as a way to
unambiguously
&gt; push
&gt; on what I think will be a more vulnerable spot on the administration's
belly
&gt; (the
&gt; prioritization of humanitarian concerns) than condemning the bombing per
se.
&gt; It
&gt; also emphasizes the responsiblity we have, as citizens, to assert our
moral
&gt; rights
&gt; over the administration of our government, and emphasizes the distinction
&gt; between
&gt; the Government of the United States, and the citizenry of the United
States.

I support adding another clause along these lines (although I'd vote for
"considering" the government responsible instead of "holding" them
responsible - holding them responsible infers we'd DO something, which we
really can't, unless we can get the city to secede, which would be SO
great... I'd also suggest "military policy" be changed to "military actions"
and the last bit to "results of U.S. government indifference to the priority
of humanitarian concerns in Afghanistan and the surrounding region.").

Realistically, for the resolution to pass the Council, we'll have to either
water this clause down or take it out.  But I don't think there's anything
wrong with starting with something a bit more challenging and then adapting
it to the political reality.  And people in MAPC will love this clause.  In
all fairness, when we present the resolution to MAPC, we should let them
know that it's likely to be revised after we get input from Council members,
and get a sense of what sort of revisions they'd support.

-X

PS- I haven't raved in at least 5 years.
____________________________________________
X
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
Social Justice Center
office 608-663-5431                         1202 Williamson St
cell 608-347-4598                           Madison, WI 53703
home 608-255-4598                           fax 608-227-0141

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"We struggled for more than 24 years for independence. We've learned the
lesson that even small people have a voice."
    -East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri, during the August 30, 2001
Constituent Assembly vote
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I think it would be useful for simple people such as myself to know what
this means.  The phrase has a certain familiar ring to it.  If the Ladies
Aid Society at Saint Stephen's Lutheran Church finds it objectionable, and
we're seeking a broad based coalition... well, we ought to think about that.

-----Original Message-----
From: X
[mailto:X]On Behalf Of
X
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:08 PM
To: X
Subject: Re: [MAPC-coord] Sunday meeting reminders and agenda


One more revision:

Please change "International Solidarity" to "International Solidarity &amp;
National Networking".

X

----- Original Message -----
From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
To: &lt;X&gt;
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MAPC-coord] Sunday meeting reminders and agenda


&gt; A few additions/revisions/comments:
&gt;
&gt; (1)  ADD:  "Structure of coordinating committee (Do we need an Innie?)"
&gt; This should probably come after the purpose/mission discussion.  [My
concern
&gt; here is twofold:  First, we've had a number of administrative lapses --
like
&gt; no one having responsibility for reserving rooms for CC meetings.  Second,
&gt; e-mail is proving to be a rather sluggish way to deal with issues that
need
&gt; to be decided quickly, such as the "Is this an emergency?" question from
&gt; last weekend, or even the "Where do we hold the general membership
meeting?"
&gt; question.  X we need an X for the CC -- someone who is responsible
for
&gt; making sure those adminisrative details get covered, and for making phone
&gt; calls to CC members when e-mail isn't fast enough.]
&gt;
&gt; (2)  CHANGE:  "Funding" to "Report back from Student/Youth Caucus".  This
&gt; should come before the discussion of additional at large CC members.
&gt;
&gt; (3)  ADD:  The usual round table of Working Group reports/updates
&gt;
&gt; (4)  COMMENT:  Regarding "Additional at large members selection", it was
&gt; pointed out to me that the three existing at-large members were elected on
a
&gt; temporary basis.  I can't recall what the final definition of "temporary"
&gt; was, or even if there was one.  Do we need to put all five at-large seats
up
&gt; for election, or just fill the two empty ones?
&gt;
&gt; X
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt; To: &lt;X&gt;
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:18 AM
&gt; Subject: [MAPC-coord] Sunday meeting reminders and agenda
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Fellow outies,
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Here is what I have so far for agenda.  These are mostly left from the
&gt; last
&gt; &gt; meeting.  If you have additional items, please send to me by Sunday noon
&gt; or
&gt; &gt; bring with you to the meeting.  These are not in any particular order at
&gt; &gt; this point.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; - Purpose/mission for cc (bring your proposals)
&gt; &gt; - Approval of previous meeting minutes (may be moot point as they are
&gt; posted
&gt; &gt; already)
&gt; &gt; - Additional at large members selection (bring your proposals)
&gt; &gt; - GM meeting - select facilitators
&gt; &gt; - GM meeting - prepare agenda
&gt; &gt; - GM meeting - seems like location will be back up for discussion
&gt; &gt; - GM meeting - how much should we pay for meeting space
&gt; &gt; - Being proactive for emergency actions
&gt; &gt; - Funding (not sure of the exact issue, left from last meeting)
&gt; &gt; - International Solidarity
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I had an action item to compose a Welcome document to distribute at the
&gt; &gt; meeting, I will bring this for commentary.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; We will need someone to take notes.  I can bring my laptop, but won't be
&gt; &gt; able to both take notes and facilitate at the same time.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; X, do you have another outie from Arts that needs to get added to
&gt; this
&gt; &gt; mail list?  Otherwise, please pass on to whomever will be representing
&gt; Arts
&gt; &gt; at the meeting.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; peace,
&gt; &gt; X
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greetings.  x, the woman who came to the main meeting on tuesday
and announced the film showing this weekend, has lined up another
showing for 1 week from tonight, 10/25, at WYOU studios.  they've got
the movies, location, equipment, all lined up.  all they need from us
is help publicizing it (posting on the web, sending to email lists,
putting up flyers, etc), and making it a useful organizational event
by having sign-up sheets and leaflets about MAPC there, participating
in the discussion after the showing about what people can do, etc,
etc.  details below.

can anyone volunteer to help coordinate this event?  in particular,
just making sure that the various means of publicity are being
followed through with, and getting people from MAPC to be there to
organize at the event itself.  i'd do it, but i just found out i have
to leave town for work first thing on saturday morning, and i don't
get back until late next thursday.  please contact x by friday,
10/19 at the latest (x).  thanks!


 In solidarity,

x
International Socialist Organization
United Faculty and Academic Staff, AFT Local 223

------- Forwarded Message

From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
Subject: Need an MAPC volunteer for video screenings next week...
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:02:43 -0500

Hi x,
Please send to relevant people / lists.

We have Oct 25th 6:30 - 11pm at WYOU available for a 'second' public
screening of the 'Peace Videos' and any other videos the audience
would like to see.  (refer list of videos at the end of email) A
discussion after the videos would also be a good idea.

We need atleast one person at MAPC who can be a point contact and
organizer to use this screening opportunity as an outreach and
organizing tool for the Peace Efforts.  This would include getting the
word out, flyers, postering, email lists, signup sheets at event and
generally using this as an organizing opportunity.

WYOU can provide location, equipment and do the screening.

Most of this has already been setup and its just a bit of effort
needed in the next few days to 'pull this together'. I unfortunately
do not have the bandwidth to pull this through next week.

Can anyone at MAPC take this up ?  we may not be able to go ahead with
it without this input. We need to figure this out by tommorow to go
ahead with the Oct 25th screenings.

My contact info: x
x and x : x
Peace
x


Hi

These are the videos I have. They may be of use for the organizing /
teach ins in the next few weeks.  My tel# x Feel free to call
me.  x

Peace Efforts
------------------
-911 - 30 mins On WTC Attacks, NYC's response and the call for justice, not
vengeance
-Turning Tragedy into War - 30 mins - Media Analysis on mainstream coverage
after attacks
-Scared Sacred - 15 mins - on Hiroshima
-DC Peace Rallies (Sep 30th) Selects - 30 mins
-South Asia in the Nuclear Shadow 30 min (by Pakistani Filmmaker on
nuclearization
of Pakistan)
-Buddha Weeps in Jadugoda 76 min. (Film on Uranium mining for India's
nuclear program
and how it has devastated the tribals of Jadugoda, India)


Anti-Globalization
-----------------------
Rebel Colors - Prague
Crowd Bites Wolf - Prague
Video from Genoa (coming in)

Breaking the Bank
This is what Democracy Looks like
Showdown in Seattle
More N30 Stuff
Zapatistas
Latin King and Queen Nation (on a Latino Gang in NYC)

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Dear Committee,

     I found a few items you might want to keep in mind for meeting
Feingold.

(1)
     First, the Friends' Service National Legislation site alerted me to
this impending legislation from Senator Helms.  Let's ask Feingold to oppose
it.

     http://www.fcnl.org/act_lam_current/actnow_lam_index.htm

(2)
     Here's the same site's recommendations on talking to legislators about
upcoming military spending authorization, though it doesn't give bill
numbers.  Seems like handy background.

http://www.fcnl.org/issues/afghanistan/terrorism/stmt_military-spending.htm

(3)
     Also, let's give Feingold a big thanks for his lone opposition to
"Patriot Act" S.1510.  Here's the ACLU's summary of that:

     http://www.aclu.org/news/2001/n101201c.html

(4)
     Now here are a few more thoughts.  Please bear with me, since I am new
negotiating that www.thomas.loc.gov site (?address I think).  I found out
from that that Feingold co-introduced S.1564, a bill relating to US
adherence to the ABM Treaty.  It's now in the Committee on Armed Services.
I haven't read the bill.  Let's do that since it's  lead by Feinstein, who
can be hawkish.
     A truly excellent resolution S.172 has been introduced into the Senate
by Sen. Wellstone.  This is a sense resolution relating to humanitarian aid
to the Afghanis.  Let's ask Feingold to back it.  I couldn't tell if he has
or not.  It's in the Committee on Foreign Relations now.  Wellstone
submitted a speech about it in the Congressional Record of 10/18.
     There's also a S.173 resolution condemning violence against
Iranian-Americans.  Presumably this won't be controversial, since they've
already done the same with Arab-Americans and Sikh-Americans.
     This may be outside the realm of our group, but S.1473 federalizes
airport security (if the House will pass something similar).  I'm not sure
how Feingold voted on this.  Personally, I think it's unacceptable for a
legislator NOT to vote for this.  Certainly is a more direct response to the
problem than starting a war!

     Hope this helps.  Looking forward to seeing you Tuesday.

Best,
X
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I couldn't read all the way through this message from Gillam without
reacting...  here goes:

My best advice to the kids and th egrown-ups who want to hassle this is "get
a life."  The Peace Symbol is a wonderful thing... paint it green if you
have to, use it as a global truss if that appeals to your graphic
sensibilities, but don't drop it and here's why...

The so called "Peace Symbol" pre-dates most of us (apologies to the
septuagenarians and older folks in our membership).  By the mid-1950s,
public protests of the nuclear arms race were building. In 1955, the year in
which Albert Einstein died, he and Bertrand Russell issued a Manifesto
warning of the dangers of continuing the nuclear arms race. Two years later
in 1957 the great humanitarian Albert Schweitzer made a public "Declaration
of Conscience" in which he stated that "the end of further experiments with
atom bombs would be like early sun rays of hope which suffering humanity is
longing for." The Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy (SANE), an
organization of private citizens seeking to alter official nuclear policies,
was formed in 1957.

One of the most widely known symbols in the world, in Britain it is
recognised as standing for nuclear disarmament  and in particular as the
logo of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND). In the United States and
much of the rest of the world it is known more broadly as the peace symbol.
It was designed in 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist
and a graduate of the Royal College of Arts. He showed his preliminary
sketches to a small group of people in the Peace News office in North London
and to the Direct Action Committee Against Nuclear War, one of several
smaller organisations that came together to set up CND.

The Direct Action Committee had already planned what was to be the first
major anti-nuclear march, from London to Aldermaston, where British nuclear
weapons were and still are manufactured. It was on that march, over the 1958
Easter weekend that the symbol first appeared in public. Five hundred
cardboard lollipops on sticks were produced. Half were black on white and
half white on green. Just as the churchs liturgical colours change over
Easter, so the colours were to change, from Winter to Spring, from Death to
Life. Black and white would be displayed on Good Friday and Saturday, green
and white on Easter Sunday and Monday.

The first badges were made by Eric Austin of Kensington CND using white clay
with the symbol painted black. Again there was a conscious symbolism . They
were distributed with a note explaining that in the event of a nuclear war,
these fired pottery badges would be among the few human artifacts to survive
the nuclear inferno. These early ceramic badges can still be found and one,
lent by CND, was included in the Imperial War Museums 1999/2000 exhibition
From the Bomb to the Beatles.

What does it mean?

Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk
during the Second World War, explained that the symbol incorporated the
semaphore letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament). He later wrote to Hugh Brock,
editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater, more
personal depth:

I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an
individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards
in the manner of Goyas peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the
drawing into a line and put a circle round it.

Eric Austin added his own interpretation of the design: "the gesture of
despair had long been associated with the death of Man and the circle with
the unborn child."


Gerald Holtom had originally considered using the Christian cross symbol
within a circle as the motif for the march but various priests he had
approached with the suggestion were not happy at the idea of using the cross
on a protest march. Later, ironically, Christian CND were to use the symbol
with the central stroke extended upwards to form the upright of a cross.
This adaptation of the design was only one of many subsequently invented by
various groups within CND and for specific occasions  with a cross below as
a womens symbol, with a daffodil or a thistle incorporated by CND Cymru and
Scottish CND, with little legs for a sponsored walk etc. Whether Gerald
Holtom would have approved of some of the more light-hearted versions is
open to doubt.

The symbol almost at once crossed the Atlantic. Bayard Rustin, a close
associate of Martin Luther King had come over from the US in order to take
part in that first Aldermaston March. He took the symbol back to the United
States where it was used on civil rights marches. Later it appeared on
anti-Vietnam War demonstrations and was even seen daubed in protest on their
helmets by American GIs. Simpler to draw than the Picasso peace dove, it
became known, first in the US and then round the world as the peace symbol.
It appeared on the walls of Prague when the Soviet tanks invaded in 1968, on
the Berlin Wall, in Sarajevo and Belgrade, on the graves of the victims of
military dictators from the Greek Colonels to the Argentinian junta, and
most recently in East Timor.

There have been claims that the symbol has older, occult or anti-Christian
associations. In South Africa, under the apartheid regime, there was an
official attempt to ban it. Various far-right and fundamentalist American
groups have also spread the idea of Satanic associations or condemned it as
a Communist sign. However the origins and the ideas behind the symbol have
been clearly described, both in letters and in interviews, by Gerald Holtom
and his original, first sketches are now on display as part of the
Commonweal Collection in Bradford.

Although specifically designed for the anti-nuclear movement it has quite
deliberately never been copyrighted. No one has to pay or to seek permission
before they use it. A symbol of freedom, it is free for all. This of course
sometimes leads to its use, or misuse, in circumstances that CND and the
peace movement find distasteful. It is also often exploited for commercial,
advertising or generally fashion purposes. We cant stop this happening and
have no intention of copyrighting it. All we can do is to ask commercial
users if they would like to make a donation. Any money received is used for
CNDs peace education and information work.

(material from the CND website)




Here is a link to the Russell - Einstein manisfesto issued in 1955:
http://www.nuclearfiles.org/docs/1955/550709-russel-einstein.html




-----Original Message-----
From: X
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:51 PM
To: discuss@madpeace.org
Cc: stopwardisc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MAPC-discuss] MAPC Logo Design -- Graphics, Symbolism, and
Baggage


Hi all!

Just a heads up that the MAPC logo will be on the agenda for Tuesday night's
general membership meeting, and a few comments (okay, I lied - lots of
comments) since I may not be able to attend the whole meeting.

While (AFAIK) we've never voted on this, the peace sign wrapped around the
globe has become the de facto MAPC logo.  (IIRC the general membership
referred the logo question back to the Arts &amp; Culture WG, and they couldn't
come up with anything better.)

The Student/Youth Caucus has objected to this logo, and designed a new one,
which will be presented on Tuesday.  (As I understand it, the problem is
that the peace sign is tied to a particular historic era, and carries
baggage which is too hippie-ish -- as opposed to activist.  There is also
concern that the grey-scale of the logo does not reduce or reproduce well.)
Their proposed logo has a half-globe, without peace sign, with paler images
of the globe radiating out from it.  (Lousy description, I know.)

I sympathize with the S/YC's objections, but I like their proposed graphic
even less than the one we've been using.  To me, it's not particularly
distinctive, and a globe alone just doesn't say "peace" to me.  It could
just as easily be the logo graphic for a global telecommunications
corporation.

Then again, I'm not sure that any graphic we pick to represent
"peace/anti-war" will be acceptable to and truly representative of the whole
Coalition.  The Vietnam-era peace sign is, well, Vietnam era, and doesn't
represent the new generation of activists.  The dove has a longer history,
but strikes me as a bit too "Pacifist" in image, as does the rifle with a
flower in its barrel, broken rifle, broken bomb, and a few others.  The
other predominant image from the Vietnam era, the clenched fist, of course,
has the opposite connotation.  We've already been through the discussion of
incorporating the symbolism of the American flag; some of us think "peace is
patriotic" and others of us think U.S. nationalism is part of the problem.
And while the globe could well be something that none of us object to, it
really doesn't symbolize anything that distinguishes us from the other side.

"Madison area" is tough to symbolize graphically.  The most identifiable
symbols are architectural (the State Capitol), and we have nothing to do
with state government.  Doing something with the outline of the state and
highlighting the Madison area really doesn't work graphically.  And I doubt
that anyone would recognize that a satellite view of the Four Lakes was
anything other than a Rorschach inkblot test.

We could try to have a symbol for everyone, incorporating lots of different
images in the logo, but the result would likely be an unwieldy mess.

My personal opinion at this point is that we should either (1)come up with a
graphic that is brand new -- no baggage from past movements or ideologies --
(and I have no earthly idea what this would be); or (2) just go with a
"words-only" logo, using a very distinctive typestyle and arrangement of the
words in our organization name.  If the typestyle and arrangement are
distinctive enough, IMO the logo will be recognizeable and identifiable, and
would avoid the symbolism &amp; baggage problems inherent in selecting any
graphic image for a diverse coalition.

XX



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From UNWire:

Nov. 5, 2001
U.N. AFFAIRS
CIA:  Office Used For Spying On U.N. Diplomats Destroyed Sept. 11


CIA: Office Used For Spying On U.N. Diplomats Destroyed Sept. 11A secret
CIA office housed in the World Trade Center complex used for spying on and
recruiting U.N. diplomats was destroyed in the Sept. 11 attack, the New
York Times reported yesterday.
The New York station, which operated under the front of another branch of
the U.S. government, was also involved in debriefing American business
executives and others upon their return to the United States from traveling
overseas (James Risen, New York Times, Nov. 4).
The CIA's main office in New York was not damaged by the attacks, but some
agents are being housed at the U.S. Mission to the United Nations and other
federal offices in New York (Associated Press/Washington Post, Nov. 5).



_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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Hi all,

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Peace,
X
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I'm assuming that x intended this reply to go to the lists, not just to
me, so I'm forwarding it along.  (If I'm wrong, I apologize, but with time
being of the essence, I decided to take the chance.)

x

----- Original Message -----
From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
To: "x" &lt;x&gt;
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?


&gt; Yes I have an opinion...  I think our reactionary plans to respond to
&gt; egregious actions on the part of the US are totally off the mark.  Barring
&gt; deployment of tactical nukes to the field, employment of weapons of mass
&gt; destruction, or overt invasion with intent to occupy a country, nothing
the
&gt; US does right now will upset enough of the people to help us gather a big
&gt; rally.  A big rally in my experience in Madison is over 1000 people.  A
&gt; medium size rally is between three or four hundred and a thousand.  How
many
&gt; of us think we can even organize a medium size rally in response to an ill
&gt; defined set of "emergencies" that we intend to react against?  We need to
&gt; look deeper for a strategy and tactics that won't have our best people
&gt; burning out from so much work to so little result.  We need to define a
&gt; program of constant social pressure.  We need to keep the issues squarely
in
&gt; front of the people 7 by 24.  And I think we need to do this without
&gt; alienating and polarizing people.
&gt;
&gt; I think the art event planned for next week is wonderful because it is
&gt; independent of CNN ("all anthrax all the time" as Beth says).  How much
&gt; tabling do we have the resources to support, week in and week out at both
&gt; unions?  How many other "vigils" like the Quaker sponsored ones on Monday
&gt; and Friday can we organize and support?  A few people here and there all
the
&gt; time is far more effective than poorly attended rallies held in response
to
&gt; ill defined emergencies.
&gt;
&gt; I'm not saying all of our rally activities to date have been ineffective
or
&gt; poorly attended... far from it!  But organizers who can help to channel a
&gt; spontaneous response from the people with a rally will be far more
effective
&gt; than organizers who attempt to drum up a response.
&gt;
&gt; I think we need to refine our approaches:  hold rallies that are well
&gt; planned and/or responsive to a clear need; work with education and
outreach
&gt; to see that tables are planned and manned, ummm... personed; organize in
the
&gt; community around people who may want to respond to the war with peaceful
&gt; activity, but could give a rats ass regarding abstruse economic issues
like
&gt; G8 summits.  Want to educate these people?  Give them time and good
&gt; examples.
&gt;
&gt; Comments?  Thoughts?
&gt;
&gt; -x-
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: x
&gt; [mailto:x]On Behalf Of
&gt; x
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:35 PM
&gt; To: x
&gt; Cc: x
&gt; Subject: Re: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Aaaargh.
&gt;
&gt; Part of me says "If we have to ask whether we should hold an emergency
&gt; rally, we shouldn't hold it."
&gt;
&gt; The other part of me feels like a frog in a pot of water on the stove.  If
&gt; the heat is turned up gradually enough, the frog never knows when to jump,
&gt; until it's too late.
&gt;
&gt; I realize that's not very helpful.  Anyone else have an opinion?
&gt;
&gt; x
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
&gt; To: &lt;x&gt;
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:34 PM
&gt; Subject: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt; all (this is really a response to x's friday morning
&gt; &gt; call to potential action/questions and x's friday
&gt; &gt; night hey it looks like we should at least do a picket
&gt; &gt; line sat afternoon emails):
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; if we are going to do this tomorrow, as x is
&gt; &gt; suggesting, i am out, as i have to work, but pls keep
&gt; &gt; me posted, as i will then start the arts chain going.
&gt; &gt; do we want same signs or more? x has sticks and i
&gt; &gt; have cardboard, etc.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; i wonder if, and this is just a wonder, having even a
&gt; &gt; picket when the action is not being well-publicized is
&gt; &gt; a good idea. i know that there is much going on in
&gt; &gt; this war, like all other us "actions" which is
&gt; &gt; underwritten dramatically, and we need to call
&gt; &gt; attention to it, however, folks are more likely to
&gt; &gt; understand what we are calling for and call with us if
&gt; &gt; it is of a dramatic nature. subjective nature, i
&gt; &gt; suppose. as we all agreed at the last meeting, from
&gt; &gt; here on out it is much more subjective than just the
&gt; &gt; bombing beginning.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; regardless, i will pass the word if i hear back from
&gt; &gt; more folks.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; thanks,
&gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- x &lt;x&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hi all,
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; I'm back from work and the media coverage is
&gt; &gt; &gt; different than this
&gt; &gt; &gt; morning. This morning, TV had reported it as
&gt; &gt; &gt; "deploying ground troops."
&gt; &gt; &gt; Now the media is characterizing it as "a handful of
&gt; &gt; &gt; U.S. special forces."
&gt; &gt; &gt; Given that description, it looks like we do not need
&gt; &gt; &gt; to employ our
&gt; &gt; &gt; emergency response today. What a relief!  However, I
&gt; &gt; &gt; think we need to
&gt; &gt; &gt; be READY if troops are sent in. Given the quick
&gt; &gt; &gt; nature in which this
&gt; &gt; &gt; may happen, I opt for planning our strategy now so
&gt; &gt; &gt; we don't have to
&gt; &gt; &gt; scramble later. I think a picket line would be the
&gt; &gt; &gt; most expedient course,
&gt; &gt; &gt; especially given the fact that we've already had
&gt; &gt; &gt; numerous
&gt; &gt; &gt; rallies. Also, a picket line is a lot less work to
&gt; &gt; &gt; organize than a rally.
&gt; &gt; &gt; Rallies involve amplification, multiple speakers,
&gt; &gt; &gt; musicians, etc. We would
&gt; &gt; &gt; need the following to be ready if we decide on a
&gt; &gt; &gt; picket line: press release,
&gt; &gt; &gt; press contacts, bullhorn or portable sound system
&gt; &gt; &gt; (or both), picket signs,
&gt; &gt; &gt; chant sheets, and MAPC literature. These tasks cross
&gt; &gt; &gt; over multiple
&gt; &gt; &gt; committees so I think we ought to decide now what we
&gt; &gt; &gt; want to do and
&gt; &gt; &gt; start preparing within the committees--then we won't
&gt; &gt; &gt; be in a crisis
&gt; &gt; &gt; mode later.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thoughts?
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Peace,
&gt; &gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
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&gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;x&gt;;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:31 AM
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [MAPC-coord] Re: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action
&gt; &gt; &gt; Protesting Ground Troops
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; CNN is reporting a small deployment of Special
&gt; &gt; &gt; Forces ground troops,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; probably intended to locate targets for air
&gt; &gt; &gt; strikes rather than to engage
&gt; &gt; &gt; in
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; combat.  Fox News is reporting three teams of a
&gt; &gt; &gt; dozen troops each.  One of
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; them reported that there had been numerous prior
&gt; &gt; &gt; sightings of U.S. troops,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; but that this was the first official confirmation.
&gt; &gt; &gt;  It's not the top story
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; either place.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; My recollection from the CC discussions was that
&gt; &gt; &gt; an emergency response
&gt; &gt; &gt; would
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; be automatic in the event of a non-Special Forces
&gt; &gt; &gt; ground invasion or a
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *major* deployment of Special Forces, but that a
&gt; &gt; &gt; small Special Forces
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; deployment would not necessarily trigger an
&gt; &gt; &gt; emergency action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I would also note that, in the two hours since Rae
&gt; &gt; &gt; posted this, there has
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; been no other discussion of an action on any of
&gt; &gt; &gt; the MAPC lists.  So I
&gt; &gt; &gt; don't
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; get the impression that other folks in MAPC have
&gt; &gt; &gt; interpreted this as
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; requiring immediate action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; My own feeling -- perhaps influenced by the fact
&gt; &gt; &gt; that I'm sick and can't
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; help out regardless -- is that this is not a
&gt; &gt; &gt; significant military
&gt; &gt; &gt; escalation
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and is probably just a public acknowledgment of
&gt; &gt; &gt; what has been happening on
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the ground all along.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
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&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;x&gt;;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:53 AM
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action Protesting
&gt; &gt; &gt; Ground Troops
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The media is saying that the US has sent ground
&gt; &gt; &gt; troops into Afghanistan.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; had planned on a 5pm action on the capitol in
&gt; &gt; &gt; response to this. I think
&gt; &gt; &gt; we
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; should go ahead, but given all the other things
&gt; &gt; &gt; we are doing, we should
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; keep
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it simple.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I propose we just have a picket line. The
&gt; &gt; &gt; following things need to be
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; done:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Get an announcement out to WORT to build the
&gt; &gt; &gt; action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Get a bullhorn.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Put together a sheet of chants.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What do you think?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Unfortunately, I am walking out the door to go
&gt; &gt; &gt; to work, so I can't help
&gt; &gt; &gt; on
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this. Given the fact its a work day, I suspect
&gt; &gt; &gt; alot of other people are
&gt; &gt; &gt; in
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the same boat. Can someone step up and run with
&gt; &gt; &gt; this?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; x
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The following are left over from last meeting:

(1)  Changing the CC Meeting Schedule.  (It was requested that this item be
placed early on the agenda, before the WG/C Reports.)

(2)  Donation to Wil-Mar for Last GM

Unless we've already decided, we should add:

(3)  Location of Next GM

And:

(4)  Planning Next CC Meeting (Facilitator, Agenda, Etc.)

Finally, since our godlike powers have been expended to include facilitation
of strategy development, we should probably figure out how we've going to do
that, thus:

(5)  Developing a Strategy for Developing Our Strategy

GK




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THe cc meeting minutes have been posted in the usual spot (see Meetings).

X, I have added the Peace for Peace event to the home page, but you
need to create and enter your own detailed information on the Events page,
which is self-editable.

X, if you don't get to writing up the blurb for the blue sheet, I'll
just add your phone # and the stopwaryouth@yahoogroups.com email address,
and we can get your description fixed the next time around. I have limited
time to print these up tomorrow before the meeting (darn job gets in the
way).

peace,
X


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Thanks for working on this, X!  It looks really good.  My suggestions
are below - the biggest one being that we should NOT include anything that
might be construed as supporting or even tolerating the U.S. bombing of
Afghanistan.  I realize that we won't be able to get the Council to call on
the U.S. to stop bombing, and think focusing on the humanitarian crisis is a
great strategy, but let's think about how we can word the resolution so that
it's more in line with the "peace and justice, not war and revenge" point of
unity.  The Alders can also advise us about what's politically do-able.
-X

PS- Since this is a time-sensitive matter - winter is fast approaching -
let's try to push this to a Council vote quickly.

&gt; Hi Everyone,
&gt; Last night we decided that I would draft a resolution, and all of us on
&gt; the policy committee would contribute comments on that draft.  Then we
could
&gt; work all those comments in.  After that, we would bring it around to all
the
&gt; alders for their feedback.
&gt; To develop the resolution, I looked at Madison's 9/25 resolution
&gt; condemning the 9/11 attack and expressing sympathy for the victims
&gt; (http://www.ci.madison.wi.us/council/ccattach/att092501/attack30314.pdf).
I
&gt; followed that format.
&gt; For content, I relied on Wellstone's S.172 resolution, which he
&gt; introduced on 10/18 (last Thursday) and which is in a Senate committee
right
&gt; now.  I tried to simplify quite a bit and make it relevant to Madison.
&gt; Here is what I came up with:
&gt;
&gt; ===============================================================
&gt; A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
&gt; assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan,
including
&gt; Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; SPONSORS: [Alders names here.]
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS, a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an estimated
7.5
&gt; million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
&gt; starvation this winter; and

* add: "and 70 percent of these people are women and children; and"

&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,  food aid shipments have been disrupted due to security concerns
&gt; around U.S. military actions in Afghanistan; and

* let's boost our credibility here by noting the concerns expressed by
Doctors without Borders, Oxfam, etc: "Whereas, the aid agencies active in
the region, including the Nobel laureate Doctors Without Borders (MSF),
Oxfam International and World Food Program, have stated that the U.S. food
drops can not meet the increasing and urgent need for assistance; and"

&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS, Madison supports U.S. military efforts through many channels,
&gt; including the federal taxes its citizens pay, and through its citizens'
&gt; participation in the armed forces; and

* DELETE the previous clause!!!!

&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS, the Mayor and Common Council deplore their participation in
actions
&gt; that cause mass starvation;

* if we delete the clause before the one above, we'll probably need to
change this one, maybe to something like, "Whereas the Mayor and Common
Council are concerned at the likely possibility of mass starvation in the
Afghanistan region, if the situation is not speedily addressed;"

&gt;
&gt; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Common Council urge a
&gt; resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must be a top U.S.
&gt; priority for action in Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow

* instead of "action in", put "policy towards"

&gt; window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
&gt; winter makes this difficult or impossible; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT Afghanistan's neighbors should reopen their
&gt; borders to allow for the safe passage of refugees, and the international
&gt; community must be prepared to contribute to the economic costs incurred by
&gt; the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT as the United States engages in military
action
&gt; in Afghanistan, it must work to deliver assistance, particularly through
&gt; overland truck convoys, and safe humanitarian access to affected
&gt; populations, in partnership with humanitarian agencies in quantities
&gt; sufficient to alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe; and

* I think the previous clause also accepts the ongoing bombing - take out
the first part, so it reads like, "Be it further resolved that the United
States must actively support the work of various agencies to deliver
assistance in Afghanistan, particularly through..."

&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should contribute to efforts
&gt; by the international community to provide long-term, sustainable
&gt; reconstruction and development assistance for the people of Afghanistan,
&gt; including efforts to protect the basic human rights of women and children.

* can we also add something to the effect that the U.S. should support
democratic processes in Afghanistan leading to a government which represents
ALL its people, including women???

&gt;
&gt; ====================================================================
&gt;
&gt; I don't know how much it's appropriate for Madison to be resolving
&gt; things for the United States to do.  Maybe one of you has a suggestion on
&gt; that.

* there will be a few alders who will object, saying that the city can't and
shouldn't dictate U.S. foreign policy, but most will realize it's in the
long (and democratic) tradition of communities voicing their opinions on
matters of importance to them through their local elected officials

&gt;
&gt; I'll send Wellstone's resolution as a second e-mail, in case you'd like
&gt; to see the inspiration for mine.
&gt;
&gt; Look forward to getting your comments!
&gt;
&gt; --X
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I have contacted Judy.  She is planning on calling at about 1:00 on
Saturday.

Who is the replacement outie for Action?

X
Dear X,

I'm refering this to you since I know you have a cell phone and I suspect
you'll be at the rally Saturday.
I got a call from Judy (can't find her last name) - one of the people on
her way to Georgia.  They would like to call us at the rally on Saturday
and give us a live update of what's going on so we can announce it. They
are going to be using the following cell phone: 608-279-5726.  A guy called
X might answer it (I guess it's his phone).
Could you please call them at that number or at Judy's home number at
XXX-XXXX and let them know if they can call you Saturday?

thanks,
X

p.s. could my name be taken off from the web site and from future meetings
as the outie for Action, since I really do not attend meeting regularly and
I cannot give out accurate information? thanks.



_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc


_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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Hi all!

If this email looks familiar it is because I am trying to help put together
a coord comm meeting as well organized as the one Gillam facilitated last
week.

The next Coordinating Committee meeting will be Sunday, November 18, at 4:00
p.m., at Memorial Union (Check TITU for room location).  I have NOT
submitted the room reservation request.  I understand from the minutes that
Derek has this covered.

IMPORTANT:  If you're an Outie, and you cannot attend, please ensure that
someone else from your Working Group/Caucus is at this meeting.

As you know, we continually postpone agenda items at our meetings.  As
facilitator for the upcoming meeting, I would like to help us move through
the agenda more quickly.

FIRST:  I am asking each Outie to post his/her Working Group's or Caucus's
report to the CC mailing list BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  Your report should be
divided into three parts:  (1) update on the WG/C's activities; (2) requests
for assistance from other WG/Cs, and (3)  proposals to be acted on by the CC
or general membership.  This will enable us to read the updates ahead of
time, and focus our meeting time on the requests for assistance and
proposals.

SECOND:  Anyone with a proposal to present should write it up and send it
out to the CC list, again BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  This way, the proponent won't
have to spend meeting time explaining the proposal, and we can jump right
into questions and discussion.

Please note that the success of these measures is dependent both on everyone
sending out the advance e-mail reports &amp; proposals AND on everyone reading
their e-mail prior to the meeting.

I would also like to follow the suggestion that we defer action on all
proposals from WGs &amp; Caucus until after all WG/Cs have reported.

The proposed agenda for the meeting is as follows:

1.  Introductions &amp; Check-in
2.  Additions/amendments to agenda
3.  Approval of minutes

4.  Working Group &amp; Caucus Reports
5.  Action on Working Group/Caucus Proposals
Old Business:
6.  Proposal:  MAPC/SWAIG Newsletter
7.  Proposal:  Peace Draft
8.  Adding at-large CC members
New Business:

Please let me know if you have any additional items to add; I will print up
an updated agenda for distribution at the meeting.

Thanks,
X
P.S.  If you are no longer the Outie for your WG/C, please forward this
e-mail to the new Outie.  Thanks.


_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc


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