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X,

You're awesome!

X


-----Original Message-----
From: X
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:15 PM
To: coordination@madpeace.org
Subject: [MAPC-coord] cc minutes posted

THe cc meeting minutes have been posted in the usual spot (see Meetings).

X, I have added the Peace for Peace event to the home page, but you
need to create and enter your own detailed information on the Events page,
which is self-editable.

X, if you don't get to writing up the blurb for the blue sheet, I'll
just add your phone # and the stopwaryouth@yahoogroups.com email address,
and we can get your description fixed the next time around. I have limited
time to print these up tomorrow before the meeting (darn job gets in the
way).

peace,
X


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Your request to the Madpeace-mapc mailing list

    Posting of your message titled "city policy resolution"

has been rejected by the list moderator.  The moderator gave the
following reason for rejecting your request:

"Sarah, you sent this to announce, I think it should have just gone to
the Coordinating committee (which it did) so I am rejecting for
posting to announce.

X "

Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator
at:

    madpeace-mapc-admin@madpeace.org

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Hey everyone,

Of all the viewpoints that I've run across, this is one of the most
disturbing.  There is an internet group called "The Edge"
	http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow.html
and they are composed of a bunch of intellectual elite (from the looks of
it, middle-aged white males) that discuss philosophical and scientific
topics "to arrive at the edge of the world's knowledge".  Anyways, I ran
into this via the homepage of one of the contributors - a prominent
physicist David Deutsch.  I have included a little snippet of his reply to
the Edge question "What Now?" [regarding post 911 tactics].  It's really
appalling.  He is incredibly deluded to think that "moral relativism" is a
major cause of the 911 terrorist attacks.  He considers the acts of "the
west" to be purely in self-defense, while the terrorist acts were purely
evil.  I think that it is important for MAPC to understand these
arguments, and to systematically break them down.  In fact, I think it
would be a great move of outreach to start taking the best pro-war
articles and analyze them and post them on the web.  Regardless, here's
the link and a glimpse of the delusional state of mind representative of
many of the intellectual elite of the west - yikes.

http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow/whatnow_deutsch.html

There is no "cycle of violence" that we have to "break" by making the
murderers and their sympathisers feel less angry with us. Their anger is
unjustified: To cleanse the Arabian peninsula of non-Muslims is an immoral
aim, violating the human rights both of non-Muslim residents and of
Muslims who wish to associate with them (and, perhaps more pertinently, to
seek their assistance in defending themselves). To cleanse Israel of Jews
is an aspiration similar in kind but much more evil both in its racist
motivation and in its intention to destroy an entire nation. To replace
secular or less-than-fundamentalist governments by religious
fundamentalist ones in all Islamic countries is an utterly tyrannical
agenda. And there is a fourth unjustified 'grievance' that goes implicitly
with those three: they demand the right to punish the West, by mass
murder, with impunity, if anyone in the West opposes them in pursuing any
of those other 'grievances'.

In contrast, the West's anger, and the West's restrained, careful and
humane response in self-defence, are justified. The problem is not to find
alternatives to defending ourselves against murderers. The exact opposite
is true: this violence will end if and only if we defend ourselves,
effectively. And effectiveness will depend in part on our saying
truthfully what we are doing, and why our stance is not essentially the
same as theirs.

You can perceive our stance and theirs as symmetrical only by expunging
morality from your analysis: seeing all political objectives as being
legitimate, all rival value systems as matters of taste, treating
murderers and their victims with evenhanded sympathy. You have to look at
tolerance and its opposite, intolerance, and pretend that they are two
versions of the same thing. You have to pretend that the richness and
diversity and creativity of our civilisation are playing the same role in
our lives as empty repetition, oppression, and pitiless enforcement of a
monoculture play in theirs.

People wring their hands and say that there must be "better ways of
finding solutions" than warfare. Of course there are. We have already
found them. The nations and people of the West use them all the time. They
are openness, tolerance, reason, respect for human rights -- the
fundamental institutions of our civilisation. But no way of finding
solutions is so effective that it can work when it isn't being used. And
when a violent group defines itself by its comprehensive rejection of all
the values on which problem-solving and the peaceful resolution of
disputes depend, and embarks instead on a campaign of unlimited murder and
destruction, it is morally wrong as well as factually inaccurate to
represent this as a case of our needing "better ways of finding
solutions". That is why we have to insist, by force if necessary, that
everyone else in the world also respect, and enforce, the minimum
standards of civilisation and human rights. Western standards.


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FYI, the resolution that Berkeley's City Council passed yesterday, from
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/citycouncil/2001citycouncil/summary/101601S.htm
l

It looks like only 1 and 5 of the separated resolution passed, though it's a
bit unclear to me (Berkeley has 8 alders and resolutions need a simple
majority to pass).  One important thing we have to decide is what balance to
strike between what we'd REALLY like to say and what will possibly pass City
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bringing a controversial resolution before the Council we know isn't likely
to pass...

I left a message for x about a possible Madison resolution today.

We'll discuss more at our meeting tomorrow (Tues 10/23, 6 pm, Paul Bunyan
room, Mem Union)... See you then!

-x


Bombing of Afghanistan

From:  Councilmember Spring

Recommendation:   1) Request the City Manager send letters to our elected
national representatives asking them to take whatever action they can to
cease the bombing of Afghanistan and to seek a legal, nonmilitary
resolution; 2) Endorse and send  to these officials, the attached letter
recently presented by Vice Mayor Shirek to the Congressional Black Caucus,
which acknowledges and grieves the tragic events of September 11th;  and  3)
adjourn this Council meeting in memory of the innocent civilians in
Afghanistan being harmed and made refugees due to the bombing.
Contact:  Dona Spring, Councilmember District 4, 981-7140
 
Actions:  Moved, seconded, failed (Armstrong/Olds; Noes - Shirek,
Worthington; Abstain - Breland, Hawley, Maio, Olds, Spring, Dean)

To commend our elected officials and our President for performing the
difficult task of bringing together more than 60 countries to join with us
in the fight against terrorism in the world and to ask the City Manager to
communicate with our President commending him for refusing to rush into a
thoughtless response to the 5000 deaths that occurred on September 11th, but
instead taking the time to bring together an international consensus of
countries from Cuba to Canada and from Saudi Arabia to Russia all joining
with us in our fight to defeat terrorism worldwide.
 
Moved, seconded, carried (Shirek/Breland) a revised motion presented by
Councilmember Spring to adopt Resolution No. 61,310-N.S. consisting of five
parts.  The motion was severed and voted on as follows:
 
1.    Condemn the mass murder of thousands of people on September 11, 2001,
and express our profound grief at the atrocities last month that killed
thousands of innocent people in New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania, and
acknowledge, honor, and support the heroic rescue efforts on the part of
dedicated police and fire departments, and the city, state, and federal
governments (Abstain - Armstrong, Hawley, Olds)

2.    Ask our representatives to help break the cycle of violence, bringing
the bombing to a conclusion as soon as possible, avoiding actions that can
endanger the lives of innocent people in Afghanistan, and minimizing the
risk to American military personnel (Abstain - Armstrong, Hawley, Olds,
Dean)

3.    Urge our representatives to concentrate all available resources on
bringing to justice all of those who were complicit in last month1s violent
attack, and work with international organizations toward the same end
(Abstain - Armstrong, Hawley, Olds, Dean)

4.    Urge our representatives to devote our government1s best efforts in
collaboration with governments throughout the world, to addressing and
overcoming those conditions such as poverty, malnutrition, disease,
oppression, and subjugation that tend to drive some people to acts of
terrorism (Abstain - Armstrong, Hawley, Olds, Dean)

5.    Request that we engage in a national campaign to lessen our dependence
on oil from the Middle East and to commit to a nationwide conversion to
renewable energy sources such as solar and fuel cells, within five years
(Abstain - Armstrong, Hawley, Olds)
____________________________________________
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
Social Justice Center
office 608-663-5431                         1202 Williamson St
cell 608-347-4598                           Madison, WI 53703
home 608-255-4598                           fax 608-227-0141

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"We struggled for more than 24 years for independence. We've learned the
lesson that even small people have a voice."
    -East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri, during the August 30, 2001
Constituent Assembly vote
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Diane - can you send the call-in message around to the whole of MAPC?

-----Original Message-----
From: X
[mailto:X]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:07 PM
To: X
Subject: [MAPC-policy] National Call-In to end the War!


Hi all,
Sorry I missed the meeting tonight - I had a work meeting go long, and then
other work to finish afterwards.
I did hear back from X on the city council resolution - she's
interested, but concerned we not be too divisive (she specifically mentioned
the school board uproar about the pledge). Hopefully I'll be able to speak
with her in person soon. Anyone else interested in coming?
-X

National Call-In to Washington

"[Violent revenge] is not the way to go. It will not avenge our son's death.
Not in our son's name. Our son died a victim of an inhuman ideology. Our
actions should not serve the same purpose. Let us grieve. Let us reflect and
pray. Let us think about a rational response that brings real peace and
justice to our world.  But let us not as a nation add to the inhumanity of
our times."
 letter to President Bush, from the parents of Greg Rodriguez, who died in
the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center

NO MORE VICTIMS
A NATIONAL CALL-IN TO END THE WARCall Washington this week (Oct. 15 - 19)
And again on OCTOBER 24th, 8 am - 5 pm (eastern time)
Because the U.S. has chosen to bomb Afghanistan, one of the most tragic and
war ravaged countries in the world, and because the siege and bombing of
Iraq
continues, the National Coalition for Peace and Justice (NCPJ), a coalition
of the nation's largest peace and justice organizations, urges you to join
with thousands of other concerned citizens from across the country in
demanding "no more victims!" Within hours of the first U.S. air strikes
against Afghanistan, a U.S. missile killed 4 UN mine disposal workers in
Kabul. Over one million Afghan civilians have fled their homes in terror and
hundreds of civilians are reported dead. Already dealing with a humanitarian
crisis, aid workers are now expecting a disaster. In Iraq, the
longest-sustained air campaign since the Vietnam War continues. Since 1998,
U.S. bombs have killed over 300 civilians in Iraq, including two killed
earlier this month in the Iraqi port city of Basra. In addition, U.S.-led
sanctions against Iraq have killed at least one million civilians since
1991.
(See back for talking points). And now there is a threat of the war
engulfing
the entire region. On October 8th, the Bush administration presented a
letter
to the UN Security Council stating: "we may find that our self-defense
requires further actions with respect to other organizations and other
states". Add your weight to stopping the war machine.
Call your elected officials this week and then call again on October 24th,
along with as many friends and family as you can mobilize!
CALL PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH via the White House comment line at
202-456-1111
CALL SEC. OF STATE COLIN POWELL tel. 202-647-5291; fax 202-261-8577
Urge the President and Secretary of State Powell to:

1.  Exercise the rule of law, not the rule of force, in bringing the
perpetrators of the September 11 attacks to justice.
2.  End the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan to allow aid workers to return and
restore the delivery and distribution of essential aid to Afghan civilians.
Bombs and food drops are not compatible. (see back for talking points).
3.  Provide U.S. funding for the reconstruction of Afghanistan, a nation
that
has been destroyed by international policies and neglect. Provide over $1
billion for the reconstruction of Afghanistan and strongly support the
United
Nations' special representative, Francesc Vendrell, and the UN-led peace
process in Afghanistan.
4.  Lift the economic sanctions against Iraq, which targets Iraqi civil
society and have claimed the lives of at least half a million children since
the 1991 Gulf War.
5.  Defend civil liberties and condemn attacks on American Arabs, Muslims,
and other U.S. citizens and residents.


CALL YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS via the Capitol Switchboard tel. (202)
225-3121  or  (202) 224-3121  
Urge your U.S. Representative and Senators to:

1.  Show the same courage as Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) who broke ranks and
criticized the war on Afghanistan, questioning whether the President had
"thought this action out completely or fully examined America's cause." Ask
them to support efforts to bring the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks to
justice under law, not through war.
2.  Allocate the $1 billion or more needed to rebuild Afghanistan and
encourage the administration to strongly support the UN-led peace process in
Afghanistan.
3.  Support measures that will stop damage to the Iraqi economy and further
injury of innocent civilians. This means ending the 11-year-long economic
siege on Iraq, while maintaining an international ban on all arms sales to
Iraq until the Iraqi government respects human rights and the rule of law.
4.  Defend civil liberties and condemn attacks on American Arabs, Muslims,
and other U.S. citizens and residents. Note: When calling Members of
Congress, ask to speak with the staffer that handles foreign policy or
national security. Be prepared to leave a brief voice message and your phone
number if necessary.


This ALERT has been endorsed by the National Coalition for Peace &amp; Justice,
which includes Peace Action, War Resisters League, Fellowship of
Reconciliation, American Friends Service Committee, Pax Christi, Women's
Association for Nuclear Disarmament, Education for Peace in Iraq Center and
other national peace &amp; justice groups. Visit www.saveageneration.org for the
latest information, and visit www.warresisters.org/demos.htm for a calendar
of anti-war events around the country.
 
____________________________________________
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
Social Justice Center
office 608-663-5431                         1202 Williamson St
cell 608-347-4598                           Madison, WI 53703
home 608-255-4598                           fax 608-227-0141

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"We struggled for more than 24 years for independence. We've learned the
lesson that even small people have a voice."
    -East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri, during the August 30, 2001
Constituent Assembly vote
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 AFGHANISTAN: Annan Wants End To Strikes Soon; More
                           Citing the need to move in U.N. relief
supplies as winter
                           approaches, Secretary General Kofi Annan
yesterday said he
                           hopes the United States will halt its strikes
on Afghanistan
                           soon.


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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Hi Everyone,
A couple of things:
    I made buttons for the fast.  Pick yours up at St. Paul's anytime, and
wear it during the fast, especially on your fast day(s).
    We will be having a vigil/rally on Wednesday at 12:30.  This will be our
best chance to gather everyone who's fasting throughout the week and get
some
visibility for what we're doing.  Everyone please come!
    For other events, we will have speakers at 5:30 on Monday, Tuesday,
Thursday, and Friday.  There will be a prayer service for peace and for the
fast on Tuesday at 12:05.  (Daily mass is at 12:05 on M, W, Th, Friday.)
    Finally, the "Break-Fast" potluck has been tentatively moved to 7 pm on
Saturday, which will enable us to hold it at St. Paul's and enable any
Muslim
participants to come to the potluck without breaking Ramadan, which starts
that day.  This also gives people time during the day to go to the Peace
Parade that MAPC is doing starting at noon at the MATC Truax campus.  Please
let me know whether you can come to the potluck if it's at 7:00 on Saturday
(the 17th).
    For those looking for advice on successful fasting, try
http://www.fastingprayer.com/HowToFast/guide.htm, although it's tailored
more
to a longer fast. For a one day fast there aren't so many health concerns.
That's all for the moment.
Peace,
X

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Here is the funds disbursement policy, as modified and adopted by the
Coordinating Committee.  Please let the members of your committee know that
these funds are available to support their work.

Thanks,
X

MAPC FUNDS DISBURSEMENT POLICY
Adopted October 14, 2001, by the Coordinating Committee


(1)  The Co-Treasurers are authorized to disburse funds as requested by each
Working Group, up to the following limits:

 Fundraising &amp; Finance $ 150.00
 Communication  $   50.00
 Media    $   50.00
 Action    $ 200.00
 Policy    $   50.00
 Education/Outreach  $ 250.00
 Arts &amp; Culture  $   50.00

These limits refer only to money expenditures; Working Groups are encouraged
to obtain free or donated materials and services whenever possible.
(Working Groups should report the value of in-kind donations to the
Co-Treasurers; this information can assist the Coalition in obtaining
foundation grants.)

Funds within these limits may be disbursed either as prepayment to vendors
or as reimbursement for members' out-of-pocket expenses.  Disbursement
requests should be submitted to the Co-Treasurers by the Outie for each
committee, and should be accompanied by appropriate documentation (receipts,
invoices, etc.).  Except in emergencies, disbursement requests should be
mailed to MAPC, P. O. Box 422, Mazomanie, WI 53560-0422.

The Co-Treasurers may refer questionable, undocumented, or potentially
inappropriate disbursement requests to the Coordinating Committee for
review.

(2)  Expenditures exceeding these  limits must be approved by the
Coordinating Committee.  Except in emergency situations, requests for
approval should be submitted by the Working Group in advance, prior to
expenditure or commitment of funds.

(3) All Working Groups are encouraged to work with Fundraising &amp; Finance to
incorporate routine fundraising activities (passing the hat, selling
buttons, etc.) into their activities.  Funds raised through these activities
will be used to support the work of the entire Coalition.

Any Working Group which wishes to raise funds or otherwise generate income
to support  a specific major project (rather than for the Coalition as a
whole) should seek approval from the Coordinating Committee as part of its
request for expenditures of funds exceeding its limit .  Examples would
include University funding for a prominent speaker, registration fees for a
conference, or bus tickets for travel to a national rally.

(4) The Co-Treasurers shall submit financial reports to the Coordinating
Committee and general membership on a monthly basis, or more frequently if
requested.
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Sorry to clutter your mailbox, but I forgot to add a thing about speakers.
If you vote for an action tomorrow, please include your thoughts on what
topics should be addressed by our speakers. Escalation of the conflict is
one, American casualties another, debunking the precision of military
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thanks,
x
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Hi all,
Sorry I missed the meeting tonight - I had a work meeting go long, and then
other work to finish afterwards.
I did hear back from X on the city council resolution - she's
interested, but concerned we not be too divisive (she specifically mentioned
the school board uproar about the pledge). Hopefully I'll be able to speak
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-X

National Call-In to Washington

"[Violent revenge] is not the way to go. It will not avenge our son's death.
Not in our son's name. Our son died a victim of an inhuman ideology. Our
actions should not serve the same purpose. Let us grieve. Let us reflect and
pray. Let us think about a rational response that brings real peace and
justice to our world.  But let us not as a nation add to the inhumanity of
our times."
 letter to President Bush, from the parents of Greg Rodriguez, who died in
the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center

NO MORE VICTIMS
A NATIONAL CALL-IN TO END THE WARCall Washington this week (Oct. 15 - 19)
And again on OCTOBER 24th, 8 am - 5 pm (eastern time)
Because the U.S. has chosen to bomb Afghanistan, one of the most tragic and
war ravaged countries in the world, and because the siege and bombing of
Iraq
continues, the National Coalition for Peace and Justice (NCPJ), a coalition
of the nation's largest peace and justice organizations, urges you to join
with thousands of other concerned citizens from across the country in
demanding "no more victims!" Within hours of the first U.S. air strikes
against Afghanistan, a U.S. missile killed 4 UN mine disposal workers in
Kabul. Over one million Afghan civilians have fled their homes in terror and
hundreds of civilians are reported dead. Already dealing with a humanitarian
crisis, aid workers are now expecting a disaster. In Iraq, the
longest-sustained air campaign since the Vietnam War continues. Since 1998,
U.S. bombs have killed over 300 civilians in Iraq, including two killed
earlier this month in the Iraqi port city of Basra. In addition, U.S.-led
sanctions against Iraq have killed at least one million civilians since
1991.
(See back for talking points). And now there is a threat of the war
engulfing
the entire region. On October 8th, the Bush administration presented a
letter
to the UN Security Council stating: "we may find that our self-defense
requires further actions with respect to other organizations and other
states". Add your weight to stopping the war machine.
Call your elected officials this week and then call again on October 24th,
along with as many friends and family as you can mobilize!
CALL PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH via the White House comment line at
202-456-1111
CALL SEC. OF STATE COLIN POWELL tel. 202-647-5291; fax 202-261-8577
Urge the President and Secretary of State Powell to:

1.  Exercise the rule of law, not the rule of force, in bringing the
perpetrators of the September 11 attacks to justice.
2.  End the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan to allow aid workers to return and
restore the delivery and distribution of essential aid to Afghan civilians.
Bombs and food drops are not compatible. (see back for talking points).
3.  Provide U.S. funding for the reconstruction of Afghanistan, a nation
that
has been destroyed by international policies and neglect. Provide over $1
billion for the reconstruction of Afghanistan and strongly support the
United
Nations' special representative, Francesc Vendrell, and the UN-led peace
process in Afghanistan.
4.  Lift the economic sanctions against Iraq, which targets Iraqi civil
society and have claimed the lives of at least half a million children since
the 1991 Gulf War.
5.  Defend civil liberties and condemn attacks on American Arabs, Muslims,
and other U.S. citizens and residents.


CALL YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS via the Capitol Switchboard tel. (202)
225-3121  or  (202) 224-3121  
Urge your U.S. Representative and Senators to:

1.  Show the same courage as Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) who broke ranks and
criticized the war on Afghanistan, questioning whether the President had
"thought this action out completely or fully examined America's cause." Ask
them to support efforts to bring the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks to
justice under law, not through war.
2.  Allocate the $1 billion or more needed to rebuild Afghanistan and
encourage the administration to strongly support the UN-led peace process in
Afghanistan.
3.  Support measures that will stop damage to the Iraqi economy and further
injury of innocent civilians. This means ending the 11-year-long economic
siege on Iraq, while maintaining an international ban on all arms sales to
Iraq until the Iraqi government respects human rights and the rule of law.
4.  Defend civil liberties and condemn attacks on American Arabs, Muslims,
and other U.S. citizens and residents. Note: When calling Members of
Congress, ask to speak with the staffer that handles foreign policy or
national security. Be prepared to leave a brief voice message and your phone
number if necessary.


This ALERT has been endorsed by the National Coalition for Peace &amp; Justice,
which includes Peace Action, War Resisters League, Fellowship of
Reconciliation, American Friends Service Committee, Pax Christi, Women's
Association for Nuclear Disarmament, Education for Peace in Iraq Center and
other national peace &amp; justice groups. Visit www.saveageneration.org for the
latest information, and visit www.warresisters.org/demos.htm for a calendar
of anti-war events around the country.
 
____________________________________________
Diane Farsetta
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
Social Justice Center
office 608-663-5431                         1202 Williamson St
cell 608-347-4598                           Madison, WI 53703
home 608-255-4598                           fax 608-227-0141

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"We struggled for more than 24 years for independence. We've learned the
lesson that even small people have a voice."
    -East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri, during the August 30, 2001
Constituent Assembly vote
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X,

I can attempt it if you give the necessary info to connect with.

X

X wrote:

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&gt;
&gt; On Sunday I said I'd get a copy of the USAA/Patriot Act.  Al-awda just
&gt; emailed around a good summary, the bill itself being 273 pages long.
&gt; Unfortunately, I am not able to print emails from my computer. (GRRRR!).
&gt; Could anyone else on their list print this out for our use?  Sorry I am
not
&gt; able to do this.
&gt;
&gt; X
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...rational alternatives to what?
&gt;--- Original Message ---
&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: &lt;discuss@madpeace.org&gt;
&gt;Date: 11/6/01 3:15:28 PM
&gt;

&gt;&gt; Oodles of experience with the Republican Lady from Florence
&gt;&gt; County AND Walmart!
&gt;
&gt;Ugh, please.  Kmart.  I worked for Kmart.  Like I'd ever work
for Wal-Mart -
&gt;honestly.
&gt;
&gt;Seriously, though - is any of this relevant?  I don't like war,
and I
&gt;subscribed to this list to see if there were rational alternatives
to throw
&gt;my weight behind.  If you find it is easier to attack me than
my attempts at
&gt;rational discussion, so be it.  Or if the point of this list
is simply to
&gt;agitate against war regardless of the morality or rationality
of such
&gt;activity, then I will shut up.  Just let me know.
&gt;
&gt;==========================================
&gt;X - University of Wisconsin
&gt;-&gt; Political Science - Criminal Justice
&gt;--&gt; email X
&gt;---&gt; visit X
&gt;----&gt; PGP OK! - PGP ID: 71CEEC76
&gt;------------------------------------------
&gt;"You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of
the people some
&gt;of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the
time."
&gt;- Abraham Lincoln
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;_______________________________________________
&gt;discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
&gt;http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss
&gt;
&gt;



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According to Dagsavisen, a reputable newspaper in Norway, a Norwegian
student in biochemistry was expelled from the University of Alabama due to
beeing seen as a security threat. The logic - according to the newspaper -
goes like this: (a) He is a foreigner and (b) he had access to microbes. He
was expelled five days prior to his final exam, and following three and a
half years of studies. The University of Alabama refuses to give him any
documentation on his studies there.

X

________________

Norsk student sett på som terror-risiko
Norske Kristoffer Larsgard studerte biokjemi på universitetet i Alabama. Fem
dager før han var ferdig med teorien, ble han kastet ut - fordi den
amerikanske terrorfrykten tok helt overhånd. Nå vil han saksøke
universitetet.


 ÅSNE GULLIKSTAD (EPOST)

Kristoffer Larsgard har gått til søksmål mot universitetet som kastet ham
ut - fordi han angivelig var en terrortrussel.FOTO: DAGBLADET


Saken er allerede blitt en økonomisk belastning for nordmannen, som etter
nesten tre og et halvt års studier ble kastet ut av Universitetet i South
Alabama 21. september. Bare fem dager med teori gjensto av studiet før han
var klar for et siste halvår i praksis.

     I kjølvannet av terrorangrepene i USA hevdet skolens ledelse at han
utgjorde en fare fordi han var utenlandsk student og hadde tilgang på
farlige bakterier ved laboratoriet.



- TÅPELIG SAK
     Nå har Larsgard gått til søksmål mot universitetet, som han mener ikke
har tilstrekkelig grunnlag for å kaste ham ut. Universitetet saksøkes for å
ha brutt med amerikanske sivile rettigheter, blant annet ved å
vanskeliggjøre arbeidet til Larsgards advokat.

     - Under høringen foran disiplinærkomiteen ved universitetet fikk
advokaten min ikke lov til å snakke eller krysseksaminere vitner, eller si
imot bevis eller vitneutsagn som ble framsatt fra universitetets side,
forteller Kristoffer Larsgard til Dagsavisen på telefon fra USA.
     Etter økt oppmerksomhet rundt Larsgards sak, blant annet fra
amerikanske media, har skolen trukket anklagen om at Larsgard er en
terrorfare. I stedet hevder ledelsen at nordmannen har brutt ordensregler og
at han er en generell trussel mot medstudenter.


FEILPARKERING
     - Det er snakk om småting som de har slått sammen, blant annet en
feilparkering, sier Larsgard.
     Organisasjonen for norske studenter i utlandet, ANSA, har fulgt
Larsgards sak tett siden han ble kastet ut av universitetet. President André
Nerheim har fått tilgang til dokumentasjonen som ligger til grunn for
utkastingen.
     - Dette er en tåpelig sak med alvorlige konsekvenser for Larsgard.
Skolen hevder nå at han er et disiplinærproblem, men grunnlaget for å kaste
ham ut er absolutt ikke holdbart, sier Nerheim til Dagsavisen.
     ANSA har selv vært i kontakt med universitetet uten å komme noen vei.
     - Vi stiller oss undrende til det som har skjedd, og forstår ikke
hvorfor universitetet viser en slik holdning. Det virker veldig rart med
tanke på at Larsgard hvert semester har fått brev fra universitetets
direktør hvor det står at han er en av skolens beste studenter, og at
universitetet er stolt over å ha ham som student, sier Nerheim.


DYRT
     For Larsgard betyr utkastelsen store økonomiske problemer. Selv om han
eventuelt skulle få tilbake sin studieplass, har han mistet verdifull
undervisning og gått glipp av avsluttende eksamen, som han ble nektet.
     - I tillegg har universitetet sperret mine karakterer, så jeg ikke kan
søke på andre skoler. Et nytt skoleår vil dessuten koste meg enda mer, sier
Larsgard.
     En rettssak vil tynge den norske studenten ytterligere.
     - Jeg har allerede brukt 35.000 kroner av sparepengene mine til
advokatutgifter, sier studenten.
     ANSA har vært i kontakt med både Utenriksdepartementet,
Justisdepartementet og Utdanningsdepartementet for å be om hjelp til
Larsgards sak. Ifølge NTB mener Justisdepartementet at det er lite det kan
gjøre for å endre den beslutningen som universitetet i South Alabama har
truffet.


http://www.dagsavisen.no/innenriks/2001/11/615599.shtml



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From: madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com [mailto:madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:27 PM
To: coordination@madpeace.org
Cc: X
Subject: [MAPC-coord] Next Coordinating Committee Meeting
Hi all!
 
The next Coordinating Committee meeting will be Sunday, November 11, at 4:00 p.m., at Memorial Union (Check TITU for room location).  I have submitted the room reservation request.
 
IMPORTANT:  If you're an Outie, and you cannot attend, please ensure that someone else from your Working Group/Caucus is at this meeting.
 
As you know, we have had to postpone a number of agenda items at each of the past two meetings.  As facilitator for the upcoming meeting, I would like to implement a few procedural changes to help us move through the agenda more quickly.  (These are largely based on a post-meeting discussion of meeting process last Sunday.)
 
FIRST:  I am asking each Outie to post his/her Working Group's or Caucus's report to the CC mailing list BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  Your report should be divided into three parts:  (1) update on the WG/C's activities; (2) requests for assistance from other WG/Cs, and (3)  proposals to be acted on by the CC or general membership.  This will enable us to read the updates ahead of time, and focus our meeting time on the requests for assistance and proposals.
 
SECOND:  Anyone with a proposal to present should write it up and send it out to the CC list, again BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  [At present, that would include Barbara's "Peace Draft" proposal, and my "MAPC/SWAIG Newsletter" proposal.]  This way, the proponent won't have to spend meeting time explaining the proposal, and we can jump right into questions and discussion.
 
THIRD:  I am recommending that we move at least one major agenda item to the beginning of the meeting, before Working Group/Caucus reports.  For this meeting, that should be "Mission &amp; Structure of the CC", which has been postponed twice.
 
Please note that the success of these measures is dependent both on everyone sending out the advance e-mail reports &amp; proposals AND on everyone reading their e-mail prior to the meeting.
 
I would also like to follow the suggestion from last meeting that we defer action on all proposals from WGs &amp; Caucus until after all WG/Cs have reported.
 
The proposed agenda for the meeting is as follows:
 
1.  Introductions &amp; Check-in
2.  Additions/amendments to agenda
3.  Approval of minutes
4.  Mission &amp; structure of CC
5.  Working Group &amp; Caucus Reports
6.   Action on Working Group/Caucus Proposals
7.  Planning for General Membership Meeting
          a.  Location
          b.  Facilitators
          c.  Agenda
          d.  Updated "welcome" sheet; other preparations
8.  Proposal:  Donation to Wil-Mar for last general membership meeting
9.  Proposal:  MAPC/SWAIG Newsletter
10.  Proposal:  Peace Draft 
11.  Adding at-large CC members
12.  Planning for Next CC Meeting
         a.  Time
          b.  Facilitator
          c.  Agenda
 
Please let me know if you have any additional items to add; I will print up an updated agenda for distriubution at the meeting.
 
Thanks,
X
 
P.S.  If you are no longer the Outie for your WG/C, please forward this e-mail to the new Outie.  Thanks.
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Hi X,
Below is some civil liberties legislation issue related info.
*********
Anyone moved to contact their Senators and Representatives regarding
the stifling provisions of the following bills and draft bills should
please do so:

Ashcroft's "Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA)"
Sen. Leahy's "Uniting and Strengthening of
     America Act (USAA)"
Rep. Smith's Public Safety and Cyber Security Enhancement Act
(PSCSEA, H.R. 2915)
Sen. Hatch's Combating Terrorism Act (CTA, amendment S.A. 1562 to
bill H.R. 2500)
Sen. Graham's Intelligence to Prevent Terrorism Act (IPTA, S.
     1448)
Sen. Gregg's draft anti-encryption legislation.
************************************************
Electronic Frontier Foundation ACTION ALERT
(Issued: Wednesday, September 27, 2001 / Deadline: Friday, October 7,
2001, unless extended)

   San Francisco, California - The Electronic Frontier Foundation
(EFF) today condemned portions of the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA)
currently under consideration in Congress which would treat all
computer trespass as terrorism (in addition to other provisions we
oppose, such as vast expansion of surveillance authority).

   "Treating low-level computer crimes as terrorist acts is not an
   appropriate response to recent events," said EFF Executive Director
   Shari Steele. "A relatively harmless online prankster should not
face
   a potential life sentence in prison."

The ATA includes provisions that dramatically increase the
penalties for acts that have no apparent relationship to terrorism.
For instance, the bill would add low-level computer intrusion,
already a crime under other laws, to the list of "federal terrorism
offenses," creating penalties of up to life imprisonment, adding broad
pre-conviction asset seizure powers and serious criminal threats to
those who "materially assist" or "harbor" individuals suspected of
causing minimal damage to networked computers.

Attorney General John Ashcroft asked Congress last week to pass the
ATA, formerly known as the Mobilization Against Terrorism Act(MATA),
with less than one week of consideration.

EFF believes the ATA would radically tip the United States system
of checks and balances, giving the government unprecedented authority
to surveil American citizens with little judicial or other oversight.

What YOU Can Do Now:
     * Contact your own legislators about the ATA/MATA and related
bills AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Call them, and fax and/or e-mail the EFF
letter below (or your own) today. Postal mail will be too slow
on this issue. Feel free to use this letter verbatim, or modify
it as you wish. Let them know that you do not believe liberty must be
sacrified for security. Please be polite and concise, but firm.  For
information on how to contact your legislators and other government
officials, see EFF's "Contacting Congress and Other Policymakers"
guide at:   http://www.eff.org/congress.html

Sample Letter:
Use this sample letter to YOUR legislators or modify it, and send
to their Washington fax and e-mail, which you can get from Project
Vote Smart:
     http://www.vote-smart.org/vote-smart/data.phtml?dtype=C&amp;style=

or the House:
     http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html

and Senate:
     http://www.senate.gov/senators/index.cfm

websites.

Dear Sen./Rep. [Surname]

I write as a constituent to express my gravest concern over
aspects of the Congressional response to the tragedies of September
11.  While I share your grief and anger in no uncertain terms, I do
not believe that sacrificing essential liberties in a vain hope of
improving security is good for America or the world. Security can be
improved without privacy invasion, and we cannot win an attack on
freedom by attacking that freedom ourselves.

I urge you to work to remove from anti-terrorism bills any
provisions that call for expanded wiretap powers or online
monitoring, warrantless pen register or trap and trace authority,
censorship, restrictions on encryption, warrantless "fishing
expeditions" in student or other records, or redefinition of
minor computer crimes as terrorism. While there is be a need for a
Congressional response to terrorism, vast expansion of the powers of
law enforcement and intelligence agencies to invade privacy is not an
appropriate part of that response.

Presently these bills and draft bills include A-G Ashcroft's Anti-
Terrorism Act (ATA); Sen. Leahy's Uniting and Strengthening of
America Act (USAA); Rep. Smith's Public Safety and Cyber Security
Enhancement Act (PSCSEA, H.R. 2915); Sen. Hatch's Combating
Terrorism Act (CTA, amendment S.A. 1562 to bill H.R. 2500); and
Sen. Graham's Intelligence to Prevent Terrorism Act (IPTA, S.1448),
and Sen. Gregg's draft anti-encryption legislation.

The United States should not take steps toward becoming a police
state, or otherwise undermine our own freedom in the name of
defending that freedom from terrorist attack, or the terrorists
have already won. I also object to provisions being passed in
response to terrorism but which have nothing to do with terrorism,
such as "emergency" wiretaps against simple computer crime incidents
and the abuse of grand juries as tools for intelligence agencies, and
undermining of the very encryption that helps secure our
communications infrastructure from futher attack. This is a time for
careful consideration, not for passing legislation without debate or
careful consideration of the consequences.
*************
Our MAPC Press Release...
October 7th is the National Day of Action for Peace called by the War
Resisters League. In concert with this day, the Madison Peace Action
Coalition is organizing street theatre to call attention to impending
attempts to limit our civil liberties. The U.S. House Judiciary has already
approved restrictive legislation (H.R. 2975) and the U.S. Senate will be
acting on an even more repressive bill this coming week.
	Among the bills most troubling provisions:
q	Allow for indefinite detention of non-citizens, even if they have
successfully challenged a government effort to deport them.
q	Minimize judicial supervision of federal telephone and Internet
surveillance by law enforcement authorities.
q	Expand the ability of the government to conduct secret searches.
q	Give the Attorney General and the Secretary of State the power to
designate domestic groups as terrorist organizations.
q	Grant the FBI broad access to sensitive business records about individuals
without having to show evidence of a crime.
q	Lead to large-scale investigations of American citizens for intelligence
purposes.
	"Ten years from now, our fear is that the American public will look back to
this legislation and say, 'this is where we crossed the line to a
surveillance society,'" says Laura W. Murphy, Director of the ACLU's
Washington National Office.
	Participants in Sundays street theatre will be demonstrating effects of
loss of civil liberties. They will have duct tape covering their mouths,
handcuffs and prison attire. They will carry signs and literature protesting
this legislation. It will move from the UW Library Mall to the Civic Center,
the Federal Courthouse, the State Capitol, and finish at the City County
Building, with signs being left at each location.
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Ok, so the news right now (1:24 Saturday morning): 100-200 troops went in
on a combat mission. Two soldiers were killed, several injured, supposedly
in a helicopter accident. (I don't think I believe that part about being a
helicopter crash)
I don't think we will see ever an invasion proper of Afghanistan. That
doesn't mean that "special forces" or death squads - however you wish to
call them, are not a dangerous escalation of the conflict. I mean, we all
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kill down there? I don't doubt that civilians will die in these missions.
Now, when we originally discussed what was an emergency that required our
action, we were not very clear on what it could be because of the
unpredictability of the conflict. The fact that we are discussing whether
this is such an emergency does not mean that it is not a true emergency -
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I myself feel pretty burnt out by all the meetings we've had and I would
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instead, we might want to consider an earlier time, before the market
closes, just to get a few more people. But rally is still my first choice,
just for the media exposure of our reaction to the recent developments.
Also, most people that reacted to the news yesterday were ready for a rally
at 5:00 p.m.
We need to make a decision before noon today.
Please respond with your vote by then.

thanks,
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I'll be able to copy it and bring copies to the coordination committee
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X

_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

also available as a 342 page .pdf



_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
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