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              <text>I got this message off a list I'm on (Progressive Sociologists Network) . Its from a great sociologist.  ASA = American Sociologist Association.  I think it could pertain to all of us...

he writes:
The American Public Health Association (APHA) adopted a policy statement opposing the war in Afghanistan.  Below is a copy of the press release they have put out.
This is a small but very significant victory for the emerging anti-war movement that should give us great encouragement.  The APHA is a very large organization of many kinds of health professionals who are politically very diverse.  We should try to get other professional organizations to which we belong to adopt similar positions.  We might consider a campaign to get the ASA to adopt an anti-war position.  Even if we don't win, we would be able to bring the issues before thousands of people and stimulate important debate.  We should do the same at regional or international professional associations.
I congratulate the progressive forces in the APHA for their fine work.
Please forward this press release to other lists.
X

++++++++++++++++++ Press Release follows ++++++++++++++++++++++
American Public Health Association Adopts Resolution Opposing War
(ATLANTA, October 24) - The American Public Health Association (APHA), the largest organization of public health professionals in the United States, adopted a policy statement opposing the war in Afghanistan. The resolution states in part, "The American Public Health Association declares its opposition to the military action against Afghanistan and other nations as an undertaking that runs counter to the health and well-being of our populations." The Governing Council, which is the policy-making body of the APHA, voted approval of the statement by a comfortable margin in its closing session this afternoon.
The policy statement specifically condemned "wars motivated by economic objectives, such as dominance over regions rich in petroleum reserves, as stated in [the 1999] Policy Statement ['Opposing War in the Middle East'].
"War in Central and Southwest Asia is intensifying," says Dr. Richard David, a member of the APHA Governing Council and neonatologist at Cook County Hospital in Chicago. "Many public health professionals, like others in this country, oppose this oil war. The APHA sees the health of populations - in this country and abroad - as our top priority. This resolution says the war is about territory, not terrorism. We are against it."
The public health community, many of whom aided the victims of the September 11 terrorist attacks, condemned the attacks for the staggering levels of death and human suffering they caused to civilians. Many, such as Dr. Victor Sidel, past president of the APHA and current president of the Public Health Association of New York City, see the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan as a campaign with similar effects. "Public health must oppose war because of its direct killing and maiming, because of its destruction of human welfare and the environment, and because of the legacy of violence that will produce further violence," states Dr. Sidel. "The attacks on Muslims and Arab-Americans, and on civil liberties in the United States have already been a blow to public health. Cuts in public health services while a single-minded response to bioterrorism is emphasized, will cause further deaths. Public health would instead support the rule of law, of justice, and of peace."
Many public health professionals see the war as a cause of worsening health in the United States. The billions of dollars allocated to military spending in the recent month will mean corresponding cuts in social programs such as childhood immunizations and education.
Many attendees at the APHA Annual Convention in Atlanta were glad to see the APHA addressing the public health impact of war. "The destruction of public health imfrastructure leads to many years of devastating illness in developing countries such as Afghanistan. When the U.S. bombs destroy water purification plants, they are attacking civilians. There is no military justification for that," says Dr. David Buchanan, an internist from Illinois who is attending the APHA meeting for the first time. "This resolution fits with the APHA mission of promoting health."

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Hello everyone,

Following is the text of the humanitarian resolution on Afghanistan which we
would like to propose be submitted to the Common Council.  At the Madison
Area Peace Coalition meeting earlier tonight, people felt very strongly that
this resolution should be voted on as soon as possible - at the Nov 20
Council meeting, if at all possible - since the humanitarian situation it
addresses is growing worse by the day.  Please do let me know, by e-mail or
by phone (XXX-XXXX day, XXX-XXXX night), if this can still be done.  If it's
too late for that, then we would request the resolution be introduced at the
Nov 20 meeting and voted on at the Dec 4 meeting.

I've talked directly with X, who I know is willing to co-sponsor
this, and I've heard from X that X and X are also willing to co-sponsor (and that there may be other alders willing,
too).  If someone on the Council could fill us all in on who is willing to
co-sponsor and when this can be voted on, we'll swing into action to raise
awareness and build support for it.

Thanks to everyone for your help and support, and I apologize for any
confusion in communications.

Best,
X


Title:    Humanitarian Priorities in Afghanistan

A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan, including
Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.


WHEREAS,    a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an estimated
7.5 million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
starvation this winter; and

WHEREAS,    70 percent of these people are women and children, and the UN
estimates 400,000 children under five will likely die this year, an increase
of 100,000 over last year; and

WHEREAS,     food aid shipments have been disrupted because of U.S. bombing
in Afghanistan; and

WHEREAS,    the aid agencies active in the region, including the Nobel
laureate Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Oxfam International and the World
Food Program have stated that the U.S. food drops can not meet the
increasing and urgent need for assistance; and

WHEREAS,    Madison now participates directly and indirectly in U.S.
military efforts through many channels, including the federal taxes its
citizens pay, and through its citizens' participation in the armed forces;
and

WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Madison Common Council are appalled at the mass
starvation that will result from these actions to which they are a party if
the situation is not speedily addressed; and

WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Madison Common Council deplore the dishonor such
an outcome would be for the victims of the terrorist attacks of September
11th;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council
support a resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must now be a top priority
for U.S. policy toward Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
winter makes this difficult or impossible.  The Mayor and Madison Common
Council call on the federal government to defer to the judgement of
international aid agencies that a cessation in bombing is necessary to avoid
humanitarian disaster; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on
Afghanistan's neighbors to immediately reopen their borders to allow for the
safe passage of refugees, and call on the U.S. federal government and other
members of the international community to prepare to contribute to the
economic costs incurred by the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on the
U.S. federal government to actively support the work of various agencies to
deliver assistance in Afghanistan, particularly through overland truck
convoys, and to support safe humanitarian access to affected populations, in
partnership with humanitarian agencies, in quantities sufficient to
alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on the
U.S. federal government to contribute to efforts by the international
community to provide long-term, sustainable reconstruction and development
assistance for the people of Afghanistan, including efforts to protect the
basic human rights of women and children; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on the
international community to support democratic processes in Afghanistan
leading to a government which represents all its people, including women.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council, on behalf
of the people of Madison, in solidarity with the international community and
in their capacity as citizens of the United States, urge the U.S. federal
government to put humanitarian concerns first in its policies and actions
overseas.  Furthermore, the Mayor and Madison Common Council will consider
the U.S. federal government responsible for both the direct consequences of
its military actions in Afghanistan and for unintended, indirect results of
its actions leading to humanitarian crises in Afghanistan and the
surrounding region.

____________________________________________
X

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"... in '74, after the [Indonesian military] invasion [of East Timor] ...
we all fought together, we were united ... and I believe that if we could
unite, we can forge another kind of unity, to fight for other things, like
fight against poverty, fight against illiteracy, fight against disease,
fight against many, many other things."
-Kay Rala Xanana Gusmão


_______________________________________________
policy@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-policy

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              <text>please, read, and if you agree, sign up and foward it to your friends.


http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/port.html


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X and I have found the art hanger.  She's X, has had
experience and I'll be speaking with her tomorrow upon her return to
Madison.

Barbara

X wrote:

&gt; Needed for Dec. 2 Silent Art Auction:  One (possibly with a helper)
&gt; EXPERIENCED art hanger. The management of Mother Fools requests that
&gt; we provide someone - their staff cannot do it for us.  Someone who
&gt; has worked with hanging art by filament (fishing line?) before is
&gt; needed - it should only take about 2 hours if you know how to do it...
&gt;
&gt; thanks!
&gt; rebekah
&gt;
&gt; _______________________________________________
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----- Original Message -----
From: " X" &lt;X&gt;
To: &lt;madatthebank@yahoogroups.com&gt;; &lt;mad_ftaa@yahoogroups.com&gt;;
&lt;pw-list@igc.topica.com&gt;
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:47 AM
Subject: Globalization Movement: Points of Clarification


&gt;
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&gt;
&gt; THE GLOBALIZATION MOVEMENT: SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION
&gt; By David Graeber
&gt;
&gt; A great deal of nonsense has been written about the so-called
&gt; antiglobalization movementóparticularly the more radical, direct action
&gt; end of itóand very little has been written by anyone who has spent any
&gt; time inside it. As Pierre Bourdieu recently noted, the neglect of the
&gt; movement by North American academics is nothing short of scandalous.
&gt; Academics who for years have published essays that sound like position
&gt; papers for large social movements that do not in fact exist seem seized
&gt; with confusion or worse, highminded contempt, now that real ones are
&gt; everywhere emerging. As an active participant in the movement as well
&gt; as an anthropologist, I want to provide some broad background for those
&gt; intellectuals who might be interested in taking up some of their
&gt; historical responsibilities. This essay is meant to clear away a few
&gt; misconceptions.
&gt;
&gt; The phrase "antiglobalization" movement was coined by the corporate
&gt; media, and people inside the movement, especially in the non-NGO,
&gt; direct action camp, have never felt comfortable with it. Essentially,
&gt; this is a movement against neoliberalism, and for creating new forms of
&gt; global democracy. Unfortunately, that statement is almost meaningless
&gt; in the US, since the media insist on framing such issues only in
&gt; propagandistic terms ("free trade," "free market") and the term
&gt; neoliberalism is not in general use. As a result, in meetings one often
&gt; hears people using the expressions "globalization movement" and
&gt; "antiglobalization movement" interchangeably.
&gt;
&gt;   In fact, if one takes globalization to mean the effacement of borders
&gt; and the free movement of people, possessions and ideas, then it's
&gt; pretty clear that not only is the movement a product of globalization,
&gt; but that most of the groups involved in itó particularly the most
&gt; radical onesóare in fact far more supportive of globalization in
&gt; general than supporters of the International Monetary Fund or World
&gt; Trade Organization. The real origins of the movement, for example, lie
&gt; in an international network called People's Global Action (PGA). PGA
&gt; emerged from a 1998 Zapatista encuentro in Barcelona, and its founding
&gt; members include not only anarchist groups in Spain, Britain and
&gt; Germany, but a Gandhian socialist peasant league in India, the
&gt; Argentinian teachers' union, indigenous groups such as the Maori of New
&gt; Zealand and Kuna of Ecuador, the Brazilian landless peasantsí movement
&gt; and a network made up of communities founded by escaped slaves in South
&gt; and Central America. North America was for a long time one of the few
&gt; areas that was hardly represented (except for the Canadian Postal
&gt; Workers Union, which acted as PGA's main communications hub until it
&gt; was largely replaced by the internet). It was PGA that put out the
&gt; first calls for days of action such as J18 and N30óthe latter, the
&gt; original call for direct action against the 1999 WTO meetings in
&gt; Seattle.
&gt;
&gt; Internationalism is also reflected in the movementís demands. Here one
&gt; need look only at the three great planks of the platform of the Italian
&gt; group Ya Basta! (appropriated, without acknowledgment, by Michael Hardt
&gt; and Tony Negri in their book Empire): a universally guaranteed "basic
&gt; income," a principle of global citizenship that would guarantee free
&gt; movement of people across borders, and a principle of free access to
&gt; new technologyówhich in practice would mean extreme limits on patent
&gt; rights (themselves a very insidious form of protectionism). More and
&gt; more, protesters have been trying to draw attention to the fact that
&gt; the neoliberal vision of "globalization" is pretty much limited to the
&gt; free flow of commodities, and actually increases barriers against the
&gt; flow of people, information and ideas. As we [?] often point out, the
&gt; size of the US border guard has in fact almost tripled since signing of
&gt; NAFTA. This is not really surprising, since if it were not possible to
&gt; effectively imprison the majority of people in the world in
&gt; impoverished enclaves where even existing social guarantees could be
&gt; gradually removed, there would be no incentive for companies like Nike
&gt; or The Gap to move production there to begin with. The protests in
&gt; Genoa, for example, were kicked off by a 50,000-strong march calling
&gt; for free immigration in and out of Europeóa fact that went completely
&gt; unreported by the international press, which the next day headlined
&gt; claims by George Bush and Tony Blair that protesters were calling for a
&gt; "fortress Europe."
&gt;
&gt; In striking contrast with past forms of internationalism, however, this
&gt; movement has not simply advocated exporting Western organizational
&gt; models to the rest of the world; if anything, the flow has been the
&gt; other way around. Most of the movementís techniques (consensus process,
&gt; spokescouncils, even mass nonviolent civil disobedience itself) were
&gt; first developed in the global South. In the long run, this may well
&gt; prove the most radical thing about it.
&gt;
&gt; Ever since Seattle, the international media have endlessly decried the
&gt; supposed violence of direct action. The US media invoke this term most
&gt; insistently, despite the fact that after two years of increasingly
&gt; militant protests in the US, it is still impossible to come up with a
&gt; single example of someone physically injured by a protester. I would
&gt; say that what really disturbs the powers-that-be is that they do not
&gt; know how to deal with an overtly revolutionary movement that refuses to
&gt; fall into familiar patterns of armed resistance.
&gt;
&gt; Here there is often a very conscious effort to destroy existing
&gt; paradigms. Where once it seemed that the only alternatives to marching
&gt; along with signs were either Gandhian non-violent civil disobedience or
&gt; outright insurrection, groups like the Direct Action Network, Reclaim
&gt; the Streets, Black Blocs or Ya Basta! have all, in their own ways, been
&gt; trying to map out a completely new territory in between. Theyíre
&gt; attempting to invent what many call a "new language" of protest
&gt; combining elements of what might otherwise be considered street
&gt; theater, festival and what can only be called nonviolent warfare
&gt; (nonviolent in the sense adopted by, say, Black Bloc anarchists, of
&gt; eschewing any direct physical harm to human beings). Ya Basta! for
&gt; example is famous for its tuti bianci or white overalls: elaborate
&gt; forms of padding, ranging from foam armor to inner tubes to
&gt; rubber-ducky flotation devices, helmets and their signature
&gt; chemical-proof white jumpsuits. As this nonviolent army pushes its way
&gt; through police barricades while protecting each other against injury or
&gt; arrest, the ridiculous gear seems to reduce human beings to cartoon
&gt; charactersómisshapen, ungainly but almost impossible to damage. (The
&gt; effect is only increased when lines of costumed figures attack police
&gt; with balloons and water pistols or feather dusters.) Even the most
&gt; militantósay, eco-saboteurs like the Earth Liberation
&gt; Frontóscrupulously avoid anything that would cause harm to human beings
&gt; (or for that matter, animals). It's this scrambling of conventional
&gt; categories that so throws off the forces of order and makes them
&gt; desperate to bring things back to familiar territory (simple violence):
&gt; even to the point, as in Genoa, of encouraging fascist hooligans to run
&gt; riot as an excuse to use overwhelming force.
&gt;
&gt; Actually, the Zapatistas, who inspired so much of the movement, could
&gt; themselves be considered a precedent here as well. They are about the
&gt; least violent "army" one can imagine (it is something of an open secret
&gt; that, for the last five years at least, they have not even been
&gt; carrying real guns). These new tactics are perfectly in accord with the
&gt; general anarchistic inspiration of the movement, which is less about
&gt; seizing state power than about exposing, delegitimizing and dismantling
&gt; mechanisms of rule while winning ever-larger spaces of autonomy from
&gt; it. The critical thing, though, is that all this is only possible in a
&gt; general atmosphere of peace. In fact, it seems to me that these are the
&gt; ultimate stakes of struggle at the moment: a moment that may well
&gt; determine the overall direction of the 21st century.
&gt;
&gt; It is hard to remember now that (as Eric Hobsbawm reminds us) during
&gt; the late-19th century, anarchism was the core of the revolutionary left
&gt; óthis was a time when most Marxist parties were rapidly becoming
&gt; reformist social democrats. This stituation only really changed with
&gt; World War I, and of course the Russian revolution. It was the success
&gt; of the latter, we are usually told, that led to the decline of
&gt; anarchism and catapulted Communism everywhere to the fore. But it seems
&gt; to me one could look at this another way. In the late-19th century
&gt; people honestly believed that war had been made obsolete between
&gt; industrialized powers; colonial adventures were a constant, but a war
&gt; between France and England on French or English soil seemed as
&gt; unthinkable as it would today. By 1900, even the use of passports was
&gt; considered an antiquated barbarism.
&gt;
&gt; The 20th century (which appears to have begun in 1914 and ended
&gt; sometime around 1989 or '91) was by contrast the most violent in human
&gt; history. It was a century almost entirely preoccupied with either
&gt; waging world wars or preparing for them. Hardly surprising, then, as
&gt; the ultimate measure of political effectiveness became the ability to
&gt; create and maintain huge mechanized killing machines, that anarchism
&gt; quickly came to seem irrelevant. This is, after all, the one thing that
&gt; anarchists can never, by definition, be very good at. Neither is it
&gt; surprising that Marxism (whose parties were already organized on a
&gt; command structure, and for whom the organization of huge mechanized
&gt; killing machines often proved the only thing they were particularly
&gt; good at) seemed eminently practical and realistic in comparison. And
&gt; could it really be a coincidence that the moment the cold war ended and
&gt; war between industrialized powers once again seemed unimaginable,
&gt; anarchism popped right back to where it had been at the end of the 19th
&gt; century, as an international movement at the very center of the
&gt; revolutionary left?
&gt;
&gt; If so, it becomes more clear what the ultimate stakes of the current
&gt; "anti-terrorist" mobilization are. In the short run, things look very
&gt; frightening for a movement that governments were desperately calling
&gt; terrorist even before September 11. There is little doubt that a lot of
&gt; good people are about to suffer terrible repression. But in the long
&gt; run, a return to 20th-century levels of violence is simply impossible.
&gt; The spread of nuclear weapons alone will ensure that larger and larger
&gt; portions of the globe are simply off-limits to conventional warfare.
&gt; And if war is the health of the state, the prospects for
&gt; anarchist-style organizing can only be improving.
&gt;
&gt; I can't remember how many articles I've read in the left press
&gt; asserting that the globalization movement, while tactically brilliant,
&gt; has no central theme or coherent ideology. These complaints seem to be
&gt; the left-wing equivalent of the incessant claims in the corporate media
&gt; that this is a movement made up of dumb kids touting a bundle of
&gt; completely unrelated causes. Even worse are the claimsówhich one sees
&gt; surprisingly frequently in the work of academic social theorists who
&gt; should know better, like Hardt and Negri, or Slavoj Zizekóthat the
&gt; movement is plagued by a generic opposition, rooted in bourgeois
&gt; individualism, to all forms of structure or organization. It's
&gt; distressing that, two years after Seattle, I should even have to write
&gt; this, but someone obviously should: in North America especially, this
&gt; is a movement about reinventing democracy. It is not opposed to
&gt; organization; it is about creating new forms of organization. It is not
&gt; lacking in ideology; those new forms of organization are its ideology.
&gt; It is a movement about creating and enacting horizontal networks
&gt; instead of top-down (especially, state-like, corporate or party)
&gt; structures, networks based on principles of decentralized,
&gt; nonhierarchical consensus democracy.
&gt;
&gt; Over the past 10 years in particular, activists in North America have
&gt; been putting enormous creative energy into reinventing their groups'
&gt; own internal processes to create a viable model of what functioning
&gt; direct democracy could look like, drawing particularly, as I've noted,
&gt; on examples from outside the Western tradition. The result is a rich
&gt; and growing panoply of organizational forms and instrumentsóaffinity
&gt; groups, spokescouncils, facilitation tools, break-outs, fishbowls,
&gt; blocking concerns, vibes-watchers and so onóall aimed at creating forms
&gt; of democratic process that allow initiatives to rise from below and
&gt; attain maximum effective solidarity without stifling dissenting voices,
&gt; creating leadership positions or compelling people to do anything to
&gt; which they have not freely consented. It is very much a work in
&gt; progress, and creating a culture of democracy among people who have
&gt; little experience of such things is necessarily a painful and uneven
&gt; business, butó as almost any police chief who has faced protestors on
&gt; the streets can attestódirect democracy of this sort can be remarkably
&gt; effective.
&gt;
&gt; Here I want to stress the relation of theory and practice this
&gt; organizational model entails. Perhaps the best way to start thinking
&gt; about groups like the Direct Action Network (which I've been working
&gt; with for the past two years) is to see it as the diametrical opposite
&gt; of the kind of sectarian Marxist group that has so long characterized
&gt; the revolutionary left. Where the latter puts its emphasis on achieving
&gt; a complete and correct theoretical analysis, demands ideological
&gt; uniformity and juxtaposes a vision of an egalitarian future with
&gt; extremely authoritarian forms of organization in the present, DAN
&gt; openly seeks diversity: its motto might as well be, "if you are willing
&gt; to act like an anarchist in the present, your long-term vision is
&gt; pretty much your own business." Its ideology, then, is immanent in the
&gt; antiauthoritarian principles that underlie its practice, and one of its
&gt; more explicit principles is that things should stay that way.
&gt;
&gt; There is indeed something very new here, and something potentially
&gt; extremely important. Consensus processóin which one of the basic rules
&gt; is that one always treats others' arguments as fundamentally reasonable
&gt; and principled, whatever one thinks about the person making itóin
&gt; particular creates an extremely different style of debate and argument
&gt; than the sort encouraged by majority voting, one in which the
&gt; incentives are all towards compromise and creative synthesis rather
&gt; than polarization, reduction and treating minor points of difference
&gt; like philosophical ruptures. I need hardly point out how much our
&gt; accustomed modes of academic discourse resemble the latteróor even
&gt; more, perhaps, the kind of sectarian reasoning that leads to endless
&gt; splits and fragmentation, which the ìnew new leftî (as it is sometimes
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I just received this from Colorado. see attachment.

it is a poster about the humanitarian distaster, asking us to do national
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who is working on this? can they please email me! we should do this!

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I vote for booking WilMar...  did we set the time at the last
meeting?  If not I think 6:30 would be good because people have
been accustomed to that time.
-fp-

&gt;--- Original Message ---
&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Date: 10/24/01 1:17:21 PM
&gt;

&gt;
&gt;Hi folks - Here's the update on the GM 10/30.  All places have
a separate
&gt;room for childcare.  All are accessible by bus, as far as I
can tell.
&gt;
&gt;Wilmar 257-4576:  $30 per hour for two rooms.  Available all
evening.
&gt;Holds plenty of people. $25 key deposit.
&gt;
&gt;Atwood neighborhood ctr, 241-1574: $1 per person suggested.
 Holds 99
&gt;people.  Avail. Tues after 7:30, Mondays after 7, Weds after
8:30. $25 key
&gt;deposit.
&gt;
&gt;Neighborhood House, Mills/Park, 255-5337:  Upstairs room only
holds 70 - 80
&gt;people.  Gym is taken til 2002.  Said we should come see it.
 Free.
&gt;
&gt;Friends Mtg House, off Monroe St, 256-2249:  Left message.
Said "downstairs
&gt;might work".  Need more info.
&gt;
&gt;Luke House, 310 S. Ingersoll, 256-6325:  Dinner in space til
7:30.  Holds 72
&gt;people at tables.  Parking limited (no lot).  They want a pamphlet
to find
&gt;out more about us.  Told us to visit.  Ask for X.  Free.
&gt;
&gt;It appears Wilmar is the only place available before 7:30, and
one of the
&gt;few with enough space for the 100 - 140 people I've counted
at the last
&gt;meetings.  While it will probably cost $90 or so, I would suggest
this space
&gt;for Oct. 30 and we can find a different, free space in the future
if people
&gt;agree to meet later in the evening AND less people start showing
up.
&gt;
&gt;Shall I book Wilmar, or do people have other ideas?
&gt;
&gt;Peace, X
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I agree that it's an excellent idea, so long as the projects are well
selected and it's done in such a way as not to enhance, rather than
undermine or duplicate, the existing efforts to get these projects underway.

(1)  O&amp;E seems to be taking responsibility for poster distribution, so I'd
definitely want them to head up that break-out group.  X &amp; X,
based on Milwaukee experience,  have suggested dividing the city into
postering routes, each with a list of locations/businesses that will accept
posters.  (I suspect this is part of O&amp;E's plan, but wasn't at that part of
the meeting.)  I think X's idea of focusing on the immediate events is
good, but I'd also like to see this contribute to the creation of a
permanent system, so that we aren't reinventing the wheel next time, and I
think O&amp;E can facilitate that dynamic.

(2)  I'm less certain about the brochure, since I think writing/designing
anything by committee should have been banned long ago under some
international convention on torture.   Perhaps the breakout could be used to
solicit suggestions, etc., but I'm a bit queasy about this.

(3)  Pulling together a Labor Caucus is a great idea.

(4)  I'd also like to see a breakout group for the Art Auction, which still
lacks a coordinator.  (Yes, Iknow it's probably hopeless, but we can always
try.)

(5)  Poster design might be a worthwhile breakout, if only to create a list
of  people with desktop pub. skills who can be called upon by any WG/C.  (It
seems that the policy we are evolving is that each WG/C is responsible for
designing its own posters, but have not always been able to do so as quickly
as we'd like, so having a pool of talented volunteers would probably
facilitate things.

X

----- Original Message -----
From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
To: &lt;coordination@madpeace.org&gt;
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:59 PM
Subject: [MAPC-coord] X's idea on gm break out groups


&gt; I think it's a great idea.  But, I don't think we can have both groups
&gt; working on specific events needs AND groups working on the other general
&gt; issues, there will be too much cross purpose work.  As I think the
&gt; committees who are sponsoring the events are already coordinating the
events
&gt; and asking for help as needed, I would propose the breakout groups work on
&gt; the general issues:
&gt;
&gt; 1) working on the brochure
&gt; 2) postering for the upcoming planned events only (coordinating to
minimize
&gt; duplicate efforts right now, not the overall plan of how to deal with this
&gt; in the future)
&gt; 3) labor caucus - at least show of interest
&gt;
&gt; As for website suggestions, the Communications cmte will be meeting
shortly,
&gt; and I would like to see what develops before throwing this out to the gm.
&gt; We know there are improvements to be made, but it is working as is, and
&gt; people are posting and finding things.  As always, anyone with strong
ideas
&gt; on the web site can a)join the communications cmte, b)come to the
&gt; communications cmte meeting, or c)convey their opinions to the
&gt; communications cmte listserve.
&gt;
&gt; peace,
&gt; X
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; _________________________________________________________________
&gt; Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; coordination@madpeace.org
&gt; http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc
&gt;


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Hi, all,

I finally got in touch with X, and she's willing - actually, eager
- to cosponsor the resolution!  She really likes the resolution and thinks
it has a good chance of passing the council.

Her one reservation about the resolution as currently written is the last
clause (below).  She feels it's out of tone with the rest of the resolution
and insinuates the U.S. is indifferent to the plight of the Afghanis (no
comment).  She suggested we try to re-write it to make the same points in a
different way, and said she'd also give some thought to it.

&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Madison Common Council on behalf of the
&gt; people of Madison, in solidarity with the international community and in
&gt; their capacity as citizens of the United States, urges the federal
&gt; government to put humanitarian concerns first and will consider the
&gt; Government of the United States responsible for both the direct
consequences
&gt; of its military actions in Afghanistan and for the results of its
&gt; indifference to the priority of humanitarian concerns in Afghanistan and
the
&gt; surrounding region.

About the timing of the resolution - X strongly suggests we introduce the
resolution on Nov 20, which means it will be voted on at the Dec 4 council
meeting.  She said doing anything else at this point would necessitate a
suspension of the rules, which people don't like to do.  She also said that,
especially with this resolution, alders would want time to read it over
carefully and get feedback from constituents.  To follow this timeline (with
normal procedure), we need to have a final text introduced by noon this
Thursday.  Since we're only looking at reworking the last clause, I said I
thought we'd be able to come up with a revised version tonight, which I'd
pass on to her tomorrow morning.

What do you think?  It's later than we had hoped to have it introduced, but
it sounds like we'll have a better chance of passing the resolution then
(given council dynamics), and we'll also have more time to mobilize the
community in support of the resolution.  It's true that this puts the
resolution passing just after the timeline humanitarian groups have put on
needing to start land convoys of aid, but I'm thinking that this is OK for
two reasons:  First, it's not like the U.S. federal gov't will immediately
stop bombing because of a Madison city council resolution - this is one
effort in a much bigger movement that will contribute to opening up dialogue
on the issue.  Second - this is tragic and I hope it doesn't come across as
insensitive - if there are increased reports of Afghani civilians starving
just before the council vote, it will make it really hard for alders not to
support the resolution (and we should submit copies of any articles like
this to the alders just before the Dec 4 vote).

See y'all tonight,
X

____________________________________________
X
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
X

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"We struggled for more than 24 years for independence. We've learned the
lesson that even small people have a voice."
    -East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri, during the August 30, 2001
Constituent Assembly vote


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&gt; ...rational alternatives to what?

War.

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We should also have picket signs made up and an announcement of time, date
and type of action posted to various e-mail lists once the action is firmed
up. Sorry I left that off, but I'm a bit rushed.

x
----- Original Message -----
From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
To: &lt;x&gt;; &lt;x&gt;
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:53 AM
Subject: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action Protesting Ground Troops


&gt; The media is saying that the US has sent ground troops into Afghanistan.
We
&gt; had planned on a 5pm action on the capitol in response to this. I think we
&gt; should go ahead, but given all the other things we are doing, we should
keep
&gt; it simple.
&gt;
&gt; I propose we just have a picket line. The following things need to be
done:
&gt;
&gt; Get an announcement out to WORT to build the action.
&gt; Get a bullhorn.
&gt; Put together a sheet of chants.
&gt;
&gt; What do you think?
&gt;
&gt; Unfortunately, I am walking out the door to go to work, so I can't help on
&gt; this. Given the fact its a work day, I suspect alot of other people are in
&gt; the same boat. Can someone step up and run with this?
&gt;
&gt; Thanks.
&gt; x
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Hello,

I've added you to my mapc group at Yahoo! Groups, a free,
easy-to-use email group service. As a member of this group, you
may send messages to the entire group using just one email address:
X. Yahoo! Groups also makes it easy to
store photos and files, coordinate events, and more.

Here's a description of the group:
------------------------------------------------------------------------

A number of groups and individuals in the Madison, Wisconsin greater area
have expressed a need for a broad-based citywide coalition to include those
who want to stop the escalating cycle of violence, given the media,
political and public responses to the recent attacks in the U.S.

The Madison Area Peace Coalition has been formed as a result, with the
following unifying principles:
1) Peace and Justice, not War and Revenge. 2) Unity and Respect: Oppose Hate
Crimes. 3) Protection of Civil Liberties.

This mailing list has been formed as a forum for upcoming events.  We're in
the process of setting up a separate mailing list for discussion, but in the
meantime please use the forums section at http://www.madpeace.org

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's my introductory message for you:
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello,

Welcome to the mapc group at Yahoo! Groups, a group for members of the
Madison Area Peace Coalition.  The Communications Committee has created this
group to make contacting one another fast and easy.

Please
take a moment to review this message.

This group will be used to notify you of important meetings, events, and
announcements about the Madison Area Peace Coalition.

To learn more about the mapc group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mapc

There is also a calendar for the group, where upcoming events and actions
will be posted.  The calendar can be accessed by going to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mapc and selecting calendar from the list on
the left.

To start sending messages to members of this group, simply
send email to
mapc@yahoogroups.com

If you do not wish to belong to mapc, you may
unsubscribe by sending an email to
mapc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

To see and modify all of your groups, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups


Regards,

The Communications Committee
Madison Area Peace Coalition
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Hi all, just a reminder to meet at 6 pm at Wilmar before the meeting Tues.
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X, the action comt meeting is Tuesday at the same time as OE, Policy,
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        Rolling Stone Magazine once reportedly found 400 members of the
media had been in intelligence work before entering the media, according
to Gary Webb, formerly of the San Jose Mercury News.  Gary said so
visiting Madison at the WilMar Center on his Dark Alliance book tour
exposing the CIA-contra-crack cocaine epidemic.  In Catherine the Great
we learn the Washington Post had former intelligence operatives Phil
Graham and Ben Bradley managing the paper during much of the Cold War,
as well as former Naval intelligence Bob Woodward of Watergate fame may
have used CIA connections and called them "Deep Throat".
           Former CIA spook Walter Pincus helped the New York Times
destroy Gary Webb's career for daring to expose the CIA's latest drug
habit.
            How this works may have been indicated by a recent incident
that happened to me.  On July 24, 2001, Ted Koppel (another former
spook) used a classified defense report to belittle Paul Wolfowitz's
attempts to promote the national missile defense.  terrorism was the
most probable (#1) and NMD the least probable (#9 and #10) on a ranked
list of ten main security threats.  When I tried to get a copy of the
whole list, I was told by Feingold's office that it was classified.
            So classified material makes good news stories and you can't
get it unless you've had security clearances.  Hence being a CIA spook
is a great way to boost a news career.  Hence the media loves to hire
CIA spooks with there inside connections and assigns these "super"
reporters to foreign policy stories.  This operates to reinforce the
American business bias of the press (and the CIA: see trade center story
about CIA office there destroyed, that had interviewed businessmen
coming home from abroad)
            One big happy family of international corruption:  CIA,
media, transnationals, and the pentagon.  Did I say pentagon?  The Iron
Triangle classic documents the heavy board of directors interlock
between major banks and major defense contractors, about 15% to 20%
overlap, almost 50% for Citicorp with 60% of its profits overseas.
Pretty thick percentages when the average interlock for all big business
is the same 15% to 20%.


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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hi all,

A few thoughts to pass on (after having talked to X)...

First, it doesn't seem to me as though it's worthwhile trying to continue
with a two-pronged approach.  We're having enough trouble getting the
"weaker" resolution introduced - let's focus our efforts on that.

Second, it seems as though we might alienate the progressive caucus by
pushing to have the resolution voted on at the Nov 20 city council meeting.
(Leading me to think we need a FOURTH party, but that's a rant for another
time.)

However, I'm thinking it might be effective to follow up on a suggestion
from X, that we have (a few thoughtfully chosen) people go to the
city council meeting on Nov 20 and demand they address the situation.  That
will set the stage and demonstrate a real people's mandate for the
resolution to be introduced and voted on at the next council meeting on Dec
4.

X's going to get this included on the agenda of the general MAPC
meeting tomorrow night (6:30, Memorial Union, TITU).  I suggest we use our
time at the general meeting to:
    * summarize our efforts, especially the reluctance/ resistance of the
progressive caucus to introduce the resolution
    * propose that we organize a small, well-chosen delegation of
individuals to demand the city council address the impending humanitarian
crisis at the 11/20 council meeting
    * push and fight like hell to have the resolution introduced, voted on,
and ADOPTED at the Dec 4 council meeting
    * get feedback from the larger MAPC group on this plan, along with
thoughts on who we should recruit for the Nov 20 delegation (I'm thinking
community, religious, campus, business leaders).

Whad'y'all think?

-X
____________________________________________
X
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
X 					Social Justice Center
office XXX-XXX-XXXX                         1202 Williamson St
cell XXX-XXX-XXXX                           Madison, WI 53703
home XXX-XXX-XXXX                           fax XXX-XXX-XXXX

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"Independence is not about having a flag, a president, a parliament, a
government. Independence must imply, year by year, gradual change in the
life of the entire population of Timor Lorosa'e. If we fail to effect
change in the daily life of the people, independence will be a meaningless
concept, all our sacrifices throughout the years of the struggle will be in
vain. And not one of us will allow this to occur."
-Kay Rala Xanana Gusmão



_______________________________________________
policy@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-policy

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To the Coordinating Committee -

X and I have a proposal re: International Networking/Solidarity on
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1-4 p.m. X
5-6 p.m. X

Thank you!
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X

----- Original Message -----
From: "x" &lt;X&gt;
To: &lt;X&gt;
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:47 AM
Subject: need help fast


&gt; hey X,
&gt;
&gt; i have a student friend who wants to get on the agenda for tomorrow's
&gt; meeting. it is very important. can you help us?
&gt;
&gt; his name is X,
&gt; his email is X
&gt; he works with the Bahai Association and wants mapc to work with them on
&gt; something.
&gt;
&gt; it is a great opportunity for further coalitioning.
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&gt; please email him asap so he can get on the agenda tomorrow.
&gt; thanks, X
&gt;
&gt; _________________________________________________________________
&gt; Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
&gt;


_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc


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