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Monday, March 11, 2002 11:28 AM
THE LIST: 9/11 Fund Screws Gays


To whom it may concern,

I was astonished to receive this information today. The depth of unfairness 
that gay and lesbian Americans face in every day life is enough to make one 
question supporting a government which does not give us equal rights. Yet 
every day gay and lesbians fight for this country and work to support it 
with their tax dollars and hearts. As a proud American, I have high 
expectations that we will strive for equality of all peoples. This policy 
flies in the face of everything that thinking Americans hope for from their 
country.

You can do better.

Individual Comment
 
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Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:03 PM
List of Claimants

As my family prepares to begin the process of submitting the appropriate
documentation, we are concerned as to why such names of the victim and
claimant are being shown on the website.  This would seem inappropriate due
to the public access and the possibility of solicitors contacting these
claimants.  Could you please explain why this information is listed on the
site?  We appreciate your assistance and quick response.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment

 
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              <text>Tuesday, November 06, 2001 12:26 PM
9/11 fund

Dear Mr. Ashcroft, 
  I am writing in response to the Justice Dept.'s request for comments on the 
distribution of funds from the 9/11 fund. 
  As I understand it, the law requires that awards should be reduced by any 
collateral sources of compensation received. It cites collateral sources such 
as life insurance or pension benefits. If the law does not rule out charity 
as a collateral source through specific mention or limit, then charity should 
be included as a credible collateral source.
  The argument that reducing fund awards because of charitable donations 
reduces the incentive for citizens to contribute to charity seems, to me, a 
poor one. First, this course allows for a larger pool of money to be 
distributed. Perhaps allowing for people who did not lose a loved one, but a 
job or a home, to receive compensation.
  Secondly, people did not give money to make victims wealthy. They gave to 
allow the victims a source of practical and needed help, to "land on their 
feet" as it were. If, through charity or contributions from the fund, victims 
and families get what they need, then mission accomplished. The actual source 
of the revenue is the same. Either a direct contribution, or from taxes which 
have been collected from these same giving people.
  Thirdly, if the charitable donations allow for some tax money to be saved, 
all the better. This may seem to run contrary to my first argument. If the 
goals of the fund and charity can be accomplished with money to spare, then 
the country can use that money elsewhere. As you are well aware, tax revenues 
are down, and the U.S.A. has many bills to pay, some of which are new since 
the 11th.
  I hope my comments on these matters are helpful to you. I do not envy you 
the decisions to be made in the coming weeks. I wish you luck, prudence and 
wisdom.

Individual Comment
Jackson Heights, NY

 
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              <text>December 15, 2001                            


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg  
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund  
U.S. Department of Justice  
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW  
Washington, DC 20530    

To Mr. Feinberg:    

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.      Under
traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of
all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a
double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
went to those who were already well off in the first place.    

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The
Department of Justice should do the same.    

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,    
Individual Comment

Berkeley, California 

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Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:48 PM
September 11, 2001 Victims Compensation Fund

Dear Madam/Sir,
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gay and lesbian victims of  the tragedy that struck this Nation on 
9/11/01, in the September 11, 2001 Victims Compensation Fund.
Thank you,

Individual Comment
Sunnyvale, California 


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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:36 AM
Spin from the windy city

Spin from the windy city

In an editorial of the 10th of February, the Chicago Tribune published a PR piece that might as well have come straight from the desk of Kenneth Feinberg. He claims to be appalled by the cry of greed on the part of the uninformed public, while still repeating the deceptive "$1.65 million average award," figure, this time not even adding the fine print "before deductions."  The article states that some of us have said that this is not enough, but what I hear is that many say that the $1.65 million figure is meaningless. A significant number of families will get zero ("0") under the final interim rules. From a show of hands it appears that about half of the families in one meeting which I  attended, expect to receive nothing from the Fund, myself included. Are we wrong to complain?

The headline of the piece is "Putting a price on a life"  but the reader has to wait for the closing punch line for the answer that "There is no dollar value of a human life" but $250,000 is the best we can come up with.  We are told to believe it makes no sense to look at the history of "tort" law where slip and fall injuries routinely run past that figure, major surgical procedures and rehabilitation can exceed this and today the cost of raising and educating one child through college exceeds $300,000. The government's position is like saying the value of a Van Gogh masterpiece is a little less than the cost of the canvas, turpentine and oil used to produce it.

The article alleges that " that Congress clearly intended the fund as a safety net for those who did not have substantial life insurance or other assets" but I can not find any language in the law or implementing instructions that corroborates this assertion; the law does state, however, that its purpose is "to provide compensation to any individual ... who was physically injured or killed" This is not a welfare program. In fact, if the intent of the law were to narrow the gap between the have and have nots, this peculiar implementation by the Special Master exacerbates the gap by artificially capping all noneconomic losses which include the extraordinary pain and suffering of being incinerated alive, to the cost of painting supplies, if you will.

We are reminded that "[o]f course, no one is forcing the families to take the money and forfeit the right to sue" but, the Special Master spends 15 minuets of his presentation telling us that the government has stacked the deck by capping the liability of the airlines and giving itself the option of being first to recoup any payments made from the Victims' Fund. Under the present final interim rules the government payout is estimated to be a low as $2 billion after deductions and that the entire sum could be recovered from the airlines insurance. So much for the Special Master's "generosity argument."

Perhaps most disappointing is the way the Special Master promotes his pillaging of the victims in these airy PR pieces distorting the truth. He considers his job as "10 percent lawyer, 40 percent rabbi, 50 percent shrink." I would gladly exchange this for a 100% honest man.

Individual Comment
Newtonville, MA
 
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Monday, November 12, 2001 9:47 AM
value of a life

   When I worked for the USEPA, there was a value of , I believe, 2 million dollars placed on the value of a human life for Risk Assessment purposes.  This was some time ago, and I believe associated with the program of toxics in drinking water or hazard from exposure to chemical hazardous wastes.

   Values or formulas devised by DOJ for the Sept. 11 situation better be consistent with other applications throughout the government.  Lawyers just love precedents!  A life is a life.  Is the value different based on exposure to an acute tragedy or a long term chronic exposure?  Calculation based on current and/or future earning potential must be done carefully, and I vote for being on the low side.  Just because a person has a current high salary(comparatively) doesn't necessarily mean s/he is more valuable than the next person, or even is going to enjoy a continuing steep pay increase.  I am a prime example, after layoffs, personal problems, etc.  The precedent of assigning a dollar value to a person, I think is something government should not do.  This morning's newspaper article mentioned reimbursement based on needs of the survivor, or family.  I think this is irrelevant.  Thank you.

Individual Comment
Mohrsville, PA
 
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DEAR MR. FEINBERG,

     One of the so called "perks" of my husbands
job as a NYC firefighter was his pension. He
paid into this for close to 20 yrs. It is
unfair that this was deducted form the proceeds.
My husband worked 2 jobs his whole life to 
support his family. He was a firefighter, not
for the money, but a calling to help people.
Help my family now by changing the 
offsets.

               Sincerly
               
 
Individual Comment
Bronx, N.Y.
 
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December 13, 2001

Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To: Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September 11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.

Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of the restaurants destroyed.  Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
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Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Auord, NY

 
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Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:21 PM
Claims

I lost my husband of twenty years on      .  We were
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one child, his only child, a wonderful young retarded woman.  She is
suffering so much pain at the loss of her father.  They saw each other
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summer and ski trips in the winter.

     personal representation is his present widow.  They were married 8
years with no children.  She is not involved with      .

I want to put in a claim on behalf of       so that her life can continue
as her father would have always wanted.

Thank you.

Individual Comment


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December 30, 2001



Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530
December 30, 2001



Dear Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment of all surviving families of the September 11th
tragedy,
including the children and families of gay and lesbian Americans who perished.

That you recognize the sanctity and legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and families as
you make
these crucial decisions is imperative.  Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when
one partner is killed.  Because the option of marriage is largely unavailable, these families often
find themselves in the traumatic predicament of having to prove the legitimacy of their union. 
Both the
Red Cross and the State of New York have already announced that they will not discriminate
against
gay and lesbian families.  Our United States Department of Justice must follow suit.

As an American, I ask you to keep in mind the gay and lesbian citizens who serve heroically as
police,
firefighters, soldiers, medical personnel and in other critical occupations.  We also must keep in
mind
the gay and lesbian citizens who donated to the compensation fund trusting that their gift would
be
distributed without prejudice.  It would be unconscionable to dispense their monies while
denying the
legitimacy, worth and humanity of  other gay and lesbian Americans.

Thank you for considering my comments.  I look forward to hearing how you will act on these
very
important issues.  

Sincerely, 
Individual Comment

Plainville, NJ


 
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

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Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Goshen, IN

 
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Friday, December 21, 2001 12:37 PM
Equal Access to Benefits


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Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

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Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
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attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Marinette, WI
 
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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:01 PM
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Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

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without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
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Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
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distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
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Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
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attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Hartsville, SC
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December 14, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
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Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
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Sincerely,
Individual Comment
San Francisco, CA

 
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
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paycheck to the inherent worth of all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is
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Sincerely,
     
Individual Comment
Vermillion, SD
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Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:34 PM
Subject: Equal Benefits


December  20, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
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Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
about your efforts to ensure that all surviving victims of the September 11
attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment 
San Pedro, CA 


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victim fund

I SHOULD SAY, IF NOT FOR THE COMPASSION
OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THERE WOULD BE NO VICTIM'S FUND. THEN WHERE WOULD
THESE PEOPLE BE WHO CHOSE TO SQUABBLE  OVER WHAT AMOUNT OF MONETARY
COMPENSATION THEY FEEL ENTITLED TO.
THE MONEY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE BIGGEST NEED, AND CERTAINLY
ANYONE RECIEVING 1.4 MILLION IN INSURANCE MONEY SHOULD BY NO MEANS  NEED
FURTHER COMPENSATION.(NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ON SUBJECT STATED A PERSON RECEIVING
THIS AMOUNT)
THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF SEPT. 11 VICTIMS HAVE MY DEEPEST SYMPATHY, BUT
SOME SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR BEHAVIOR THAT DOES INDEED SEEM GREEDY. LEAVING
MANY WHO DONATED FEELING RIDICULOUS AND SORRY THEY GAVE.
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on
September 11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian
families.

Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of
dollars per year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a
dishwasher in one of the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last
paycheck to the inherent worth of all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is
set to lessen the disparities. It would be a double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved
one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money went to those who were already well off in the
first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships
and families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed.
Because the option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the
traumatic predicament of having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red
Cross and the State of New York have already announced that they will not discriminate against
gay and lesbian families. The Department of Justice should do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these
very important issues.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment

Tucson, Az

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Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:07 AM
9/11 Victims


December  27, 2001

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

I write as a member of Amnesty International, a worldwide human rights
movement committed to ensuring respect for the basic human rights of people
without discrimination, in support of equal access to benefits under the
September 11 Victims Relief Fund for all victims, regardless of sexual
orientation or marital status. As you know, the United States has
committed to uphold international human rights standards, including the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination.
  
As you consider rules for administering the relief fund, I ask that you
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distribution of relief funds by private and state agencies.  An inclusive
policy on the part of the federal government would help establish an
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impacted by the human rights tragedy of September 11 are treated with
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Thank you for considering my concerns. I look forward to hearing from you
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attacks have equal access to the relief fund.


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
San Jose, CA
 
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